re: Joe Mixon video released

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Are we just ignoring that she initiated physical contact with the shove?

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ok. So how does that warrant mixons response? I'm not arguing the shove was ok. It wasnt. But mixons reaction was exponentially worse

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Look, hitting women is fricked up, and his life wasn't at risk, but it's kind of hard to expect someone to get slapped in the face/neck and not do anything.

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It's like not even a little bit hard, to be honest.

I certainly believe that when you're a girl and you do that, you 100% should be surprised if you get punched back. BUT...I can also at the same time believe as a man, if there's no real danger(and there certainly wasn't here), he's completely in the wrong, and I would have no other expectation other than for him to not knock the F out of her.

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Is everyone ignoring her initial shove?

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She shoved him and his immediate reaction was to throw a punch, hence the feint. If you're reaction to a shove like that is to throw a punch, you're a little bitch.

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This really makes no difference

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With a physical altercation, it absolutely makes a difference.

Would the use of the word battery be better?

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But your argument of self defense fails when you initiate contact.

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cool. I was never arguing the legality of anything

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but all in all, the vast majority of blame falls on Mixon

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Agreed.

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I don't blame her for her reaction to Mixons fake punch

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I understand it, and don't think it was that bad, but it was an escalation.

Regardless, Mixon took it way beyond anything understandable.

I could care less whether or not Mixon gets in legal trouble, I just hope the NFL actually tells him frick off.

What the frick happened for him to do that?

Sure, ya dick

Are we going to ignore reasonable force?