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re: it begins...nebraska to big 10

Posted on 6/9/10 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by ValleyTiger
Alabama
Member since Aug 2005
114 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 8:07 pm to
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With UF and USCe already delivering most of FL and SC market how does including FSU+Clemson help. SEC does any thing at all, it will probably be courting VTech and UNC so that they can go into newer markets.



I agree with the idea of newer markets, however I base my assumption on the type of schools, fan-bases and match-ups that the SEC would want. Clemson and FSU are SEC-ready and matchups with current SEC members would generate national interest. Yes the same could be said with VTech and UNC but I do not see these two readily separating from their in-state partners.

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No one is considering another scenario, the current 12 team SEC might actually be able to command similar money compared to expanded Big 10/Pac 10. If that is the case, why expand?



This is why I say there is no hurry. I am not sure that the moves bring these conferences to SEC level of football revenue but they will be closer. The SEC can wait a year or two to see how this plays out. Wait too long though and you risk getting caught or falling behind.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12455 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 8:36 pm to
The Big 10 might be happy to just be even with the SEC@12. Scheduling it makes more since that a 16 team conference. This might be the only the Big 10 makes.
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9238 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 8:39 pm to
I dont think so. The Big Ten's prize is Notre Dame. Adding Nebraska was just the first peice in getting Notre Dame to join. They will see the dominos fall in the coming weeks and will fianlly come to understand that college football is moving on without them.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76512 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 8:41 pm to
I honestly don't see how all this realignment affects Notre Dame?

All these teams are already in conferences. I suppose the only thing would be that the Big Ten Network will be making more money with Nebraska. If they added Notre that would add a lot as well I suppose.
Posted by carrell
Austin TX
Member since Nov 2009
514 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:58 am to
ND doesn't need FB league money.

The upcoming USC penalties make Texas joining the PAC10 much more likely. Texas would rule the PAC10 for the next four years easily.

OTOH there's persistent rumors that TAMU is moving towards the SEC, and there is a historic tie between TAMU and UT. Where one goes, both are likely to go. Re-aligning the SEC to accommodate 14 teams is no biggie. One team from SEC West becomes part of SEC East. Can anyone say Auburn?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 1:10 am to
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VT and WVU would be the most likely candidates and I doubt WVU would bite.


if the SEC asked WVU to join they would say yes in 2 hours
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15885 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 1:19 am to
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ND doesn't need FB league money.


I don't know about that. If CFB is going the route of Super Conferences, they might want to jump into one before its too late. If 3 leagues balloon to 16 big schools and ND isn't part of one, their tradition will mean crap to high school recruits.

Herbstreit said it on SC earlier and its known here in the midwest, Indiana's football program rakes in more money annually than ND and that's because of the Big Ten Network.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68467 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 1:59 am to
At least for now it seems like OSU will have someone decent to play next season and OU won't make it to the damn bcs game after losing their conference. But then again I thought everyone loved blow outs and teams that had 3 1000 yrd recievers?
Posted by vatek
Culpeper, VA
Member since Jul 2007
1828 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 7:29 am to
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No one is considering another scenario, the current 12 team SEC might actually be able to command similar money compared to expanded Big 10/Pac 10. If that is the case, why expand?


if the PAC 10 goes to 16 teams, the Big 10 will do the same by taking Rutgers, WVU, Maryland, Pitt or some combination of them. This would essentially kill the Big East. I can see the SEC expanding by taking VT, Miami, FSU, and UNC or Clemson, therefore killing the ACC. we would then be left with a loose configuration of teams who will be forced to join together without making a whole lot of geographic sense.

the thing i don't get is everybody is talking about football, but not the non-rev sports. i don't really see how its gonna work economically when Texas Tech has to play Oregon in women's softball for example.

on one hand, i can see conference expansion as being good for football if it leads to a playoff, but on the other hand i just have a bad feeling about having for mega conferences
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47513 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:02 am to
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the thing i don't get is everybody is talking about football, but not the non-rev sports. i don't really see how its gonna work economically when Texas Tech has to play Oregon in women's softball for example.


you have to assume that teams will be playing their division mostly in the minor sports... plus you'd think there be enough money made to send every team on one long road trip per season... i mean if NJIT can play a conference game at Utah Valley State, surely Texas Tech can go to Oregon
Posted by tmoney
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
1264 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:36 am to
Why? IU wish Nebraska would have stayed. Did not take time to read each post but I assume they will eventually have to come up with a playoof system
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125398 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:37 am to
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the Big 10 will do the same by taking Rutgers, WVU, Maryland, Pitt or some combination of them. This would essentially kill the Big East. I can see the SEC expanding by taking VT, Miami, FSU, and UNC or Clemson, therefore killing the ACC. we would then be left with a loose configuration of teams who will be forced to join together without making a whole lot of geographic sense.


Rutgers and Syracuse at the most would be taken by the big 10. WVU not a chance b/c they are not an AAU school.

VT and UNC are going no were. I don't know what makes people think VT could go to the SEC they are tied to UVA at the hip b/c the shite they pulled to get in the ACC
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
5942 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:56 am to
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One thing is very obvious from Pac10/Big 10 expansion, its all about money.


+ infinity.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:58 pm to
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VT and UNC are going no were.


They are both putting a lot of effort into improving not only their football programs, but their whole athletic department. If they see better opportunities with another conference, they will go. Look at Baylor. It took legislative action to get them into the Big 12, but now they are probably going to be left out of the Pac 16 if that happens. Don't think that the other Texas schools won't make the best decision for them just to save Baylor. The same can happen to UVA. They bring almost nothing to the table and can be left behind very easily.
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