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re: Is it common place now for H.S. baseball teams to partner with travel ball organizations?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:33 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:33 pm to lsupride87
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Do you think it’s right that high school players are forced to play on the summer and their parents spend thousands to an outside organization?
of course not but that is not what is going on with Mandeville which is the point of the thread.
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:36 pm to Chad504boy
So for mandeville it will be truly optional for the players? They can say no thanks to the summer knights ?
Because the other schools that do this it sure doesn’t seem optional
Because the other schools that do this it sure doesn’t seem optional
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:43 pm to lsupride87
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So for mandeville it will be truly optional for the players? They can say no thanks to the summer knights ?
whatever they are putting together isn't your typical full summer type ball schedule is what i've been saying for a while. You already have many travel ball players that are in full swing of their travel ball schedule with whatever organization that they are with.
I know the crescent city summer league is about to end, so sounds like this team of sorts will be assembled for kids that maybe don't play travel ball already can continue to play some more ball at the end of the summer.
Mandeville has some elite kids on an elite knights team, they aren't going to miss any of their existing remaining schedule for this newly formed knights team, i can promise you that. there are 11 other more fully commited LA Knights high school program teams already have been playing ball all summer, mandeville was NOT one of the schools doing this.
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Because the other schools that do this it sure doesn’t seem optional
those schools are halfway thru their travel ball schedule. this is a bit different situation imo.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:44 pm to Chad504boy
quote:You sure?
whatever they are putting together isn't your typical full summer type ball schedule is what i've been saying for a while.
This is for summer 2027…. From what I heard this will be the typical summer type schedule
quote:once again, this is for summer 2027
You already have many travel ball players that are in full swing of their travel ball schedule with whatever organization that they are with. I know the crescent city summer league is about to end, so sounds like this team of sorts will be assembled for kids that maybe don't play travel ball already can continue to play some more ball at the end of the summer.
I think you jumped the gun saying you know what this is Chad. We will need to see next summer exactly what happens
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:45 pm to lsupride87
One of the top incoming freshman did not play for LK
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:46 pm to choupiquesushi
A lot of mandeville current team didn’t play for the knights
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:48 pm to lsupride87
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once again, this is for summer 2027
maybe it is but i sure as hell didn't see this info in what has been actually posted.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:50 pm to Chad504boy
The only post there is says it’s for 2027
Would be very surprising to me if this won’t be just like the other schools
Would be very surprising to me if this won’t be just like the other schools
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:57 pm to ChairmanOfThisBoard
A lot of High School coaches have joined the UBO league and have brought their HS teams into it.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 6:35 am to nicholastiger
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Most LA High Schools are playing under the LA Knights umbrella primarily for summer baseball which only lasts about 4-5 weeks anyway starting in late May
Catholic and Barbe are partnered with LA Knights and have been for several years
It keeps their teams together while developing for next high school season and it still allows for the top prospects to play another month in July away from their high school teams
Those running LA Knights are all based out of Mandeville
its this. barbe isnt with knights anymore but was for years
its simply a way for the summer ball teams for each school to have an easy way to get uniforms ordered, insurance for the tournaments etc
just makes summer ball way easier than having to do all that themselves.
also the knights affiliate teams and most of the HS teams here just play the local 2d tournaments. now usually starting after freshman year, the better kids looking to play in college go play bigger national tournaments, everyone else the local 2d stuff
very similar to how legion ball used to be.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 6:47 am to lsupride87
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You sure?
This is for summer 2027…. From what I heard this will be the typical summer type schedule
chad is correct
this is just them becoming a knights affiliate
they will play 5-6 tournaments after the season in the 2d stuff just like most in South LA already do. the better kids will go play for the knights national team(dodgers scout) if they make it or the one that is the B team that plays at colleges. the rest will play as normal with the HS summer team
now you asked the question do i think it is right that kids that are on a HS baseball team are forced to play summer ball or risk being cut? I think most need summer ball but I personally do not think it is fair to force a kid at a public school to pay 1500-2k for 4-6 weeks of baseball when many families cant afford that.
do i think 99.99% of kids should play...absolutely.
now chad is wrong that the coaches can not coach the summer team, they absolutely can. Almost all the baseball coaches that have teams in the 2D tournaments are the HS head coach.
but this is no different than every large school around BR, Lafayette, LC etc. It has been like this and yes I have heard of kids asking not to play and being cut from the regular team.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 7:29 am to lsu777
quote:Chad is incorrect because he said it isn’t everything you said
chad is correct
He said it would not be the below. quote:
they will play 5-6 tournaments after the season in the 2d stuff just like most in South LA already do. the better kids will go play for the knights national team(dodgers scout) if they make it or the one that is the B team that plays at colleges. the rest will play as normal with the HS summer team
now you asked the question do i think it is right that kids that are on a HS baseball team are forced to play summer ball or risk being cut? I think most need summer ball but I personally do not think it is fair to force a kid at a public school to pay 1500-2k for 4-6 weeks of baseball when many families cant afford that.
And this is the most ridiculous part
quote:
but this is no different than every large school around BR, Lafayette, LC etc. It has been like this and yes I have heard of kids asking not to play and being cut from the regular team.
This post was edited on 6/25/26 at 7:31 am
Posted on 6/25/26 at 7:36 am to lsupride87
i can say with certainty it will be exactly like i said. i have watched this evolve for years
the bad part is many of the coaches get mad if their kids go play for the national team too.
and the bad thing about the local 2d stuff....its does absolute jack shite to help kids get recruited. nothing, nada. at least he smaller underclass and upper class tournaments that run across south LA every weekend. I mean nothing but still cost almost what a national team cost
then you have the HS coaches getting mad and holding it against kids...not always but it happens
then not to mention the amount of football coaches fighting with the baseball coaches and almost forcing kids to choose because the old school football coaches dont understand the summer baseball stuff and are mandating(despite the rules) that kids be at their summer workouts and only take vacation during the designated times.
it has gotten way over the top with the mandatory stuff. way over the top.
the bad part is many of the coaches get mad if their kids go play for the national team too.
and the bad thing about the local 2d stuff....its does absolute jack shite to help kids get recruited. nothing, nada. at least he smaller underclass and upper class tournaments that run across south LA every weekend. I mean nothing but still cost almost what a national team cost
then you have the HS coaches getting mad and holding it against kids...not always but it happens
then not to mention the amount of football coaches fighting with the baseball coaches and almost forcing kids to choose because the old school football coaches dont understand the summer baseball stuff and are mandating(despite the rules) that kids be at their summer workouts and only take vacation during the designated times.
it has gotten way over the top with the mandatory stuff. way over the top.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 7:38 am to lsu777
I agree. My kid is currently a knights player. I was looking forward to high school because the travel shite could end
I don’t think he will play at mandeville if this is going on. Won’t be possible with his other sports
I don’t think he will play at mandeville if this is going on. Won’t be possible with his other sports
Posted on 6/25/26 at 7:55 am to lsupride87
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I agree. My kid is currently a knights player. I was looking forward to high school because the travel shite could end
I don’t think he will play at mandeville if this is going on. Won’t be possible with his other sports
pretty much every school is like this now.
and its a constant battle between football and baseball and very few seem to be willing to work together, kids and families caught in the middle
and yea there is a huge misconception for some reason that once you get to HS travel stops.....pretty much the exact opposite, it ramps up. expecially for those that want to and might have the ability to play in college. because those kids are going to go play in the bigger tournaments.
now if you are smart as a parent you are figuring out where he wants to play(realistically) and finding a team that plays in those areas. for example it is dumb AF for a kid from the NE who wants to play college ball in the NE to go play in the big tournaments in the SE....there are not many scouts from colleges in the NE at those tournaments. Same with west coast kids and west coast colleges.
and dont even get me started on the recruiting stuff. having to have perfect instagrams and X profiles that show years of progress and the emails....oh my god the fricking emails
now if you are LSU type recruit...nothing to worry about. but lower level...better get ready to work on all kinds of BS
Posted on 6/25/26 at 8:13 am to lsu777
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I don’t think he will play at mandeville if this is going on. Won’t be possible with his other sports
quote:
and its a constant battle between football and baseball and very few seem to be willing to work together, kids and families caught in the middle
Mandeville High had summer baseball and basketball tryouts at the same time on the same day. Forcing kids to decide which sport to play for the next four years, only to possibly get cut and not being able to play either.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 8:19 am to ChairmanOfThisBoard
Where I would have gone to high school if I didn’t move, playing and even starting/contributing in football, basketball, and baseball wasn’t uncommon
Big time high school baseball is insane
Big time high school baseball is insane
Posted on 6/25/26 at 8:21 am to ChairmanOfThisBoard
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Mandeville High had summer baseball and basketball tryouts at the same time on the same day. Forcing kids to decide which sport to play for the next four years, only to possibly get cut and not being able to play either.
to be fair...you cant really play basketball and baseball in high school.
because LHSAA wants baseball completed before the end of the school year, it starts mid Feb which is the stretch run before the playoffs in basketball. 99.99% of athletes arent playing basketball then walking on to the baseball field and playing.
baseball started Feb 9 this year, basketball ended march 14. You arent walking onto the field a month in with no practice and playing. not happening.
so the basketball/baseball thing is non issue
but I do agree it was dog shite of them to have them on the same day at the same time. what if a kid would rather play baseball but ends up not making it and he could have made the basketball team?
its a shitty way to go about it and it is happening all over the state at all levels but is worse at the bigger schools.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 8:26 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Big time high school baseball is insane
yep and so many on here do not understand this
all of this is about to get much more insane too.
with the new 5 for 5 rule and the release this morning that so long as you do not turn 19 before September 1 of senior year, you get all 5 years.
LHSAA rule was cant turn 19 before aug 1 but now kids and parents will be looking at the new rule and realize that if they do not hold their kid back and have him turn 19 his senior year he is at a disadvantage if he has desires to play college ball.
i hate it, but at the same time you cant be the only one fighting the system either.
but its about to be where in football it becomes common for them to be 19 senior year just like you already saw in other sports.
crazy though with the new release this morning, essentially the golden birthday in Baseball changed from May 1 to sept 1 overnight.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 8:27 am to lsu777
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to be fair...you cant really play basketball and baseball in high school.
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so the basketball/baseball thing is non issue
I personally know a kid that plays both at Mandeville High. He's an upperclassman, so I suppose he got on both teams before they began conspiring to make kids have to choose.
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