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In reference to framing pitches…
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 6/6/26 at 10:57 pm
Seems like some of these frame jobs are getting ridiculous. I wonder if home plate umpire ever receives feedback from other umps, real time, to let him know he’s falling hard for them?
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Posted on 6/6/26 at 11:38 pm to VerbalKint
Bro, our catchers struggled to catch strikes. We can’t say anything.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 4:38 am to VerbalKint
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these frame jobs are getting ridiculous.
Almost comical - I wonder if some of our passed ball episodes don't stem from starting the "frame this to look like a strike" - too soon.
If I were an ump, I'd go opposite every 'frame' => encourage the catcher to just catch the damned pitch.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:43 am to Sofaking2
I know a guy
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:56 am to Sofaking2
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Bro, our catchers struggled to catch strikes. We can’t say anything.
Let me rephrase what you said to point out the ridiculousness of your statement. Somebody somewhere that I am somehow affiliated with has no excuse based on something they do that is not really the same as what is being discussed, so I shouldn't talk about it.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 7:46 am to VerbalKint
ABS solves every problem with framing.
Please make it so NCAA.
However catchers in the mlb are still doing it.
Please make it so NCAA.
However catchers in the mlb are still doing it.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:27 am to VerbalKint
Framing is an art. As a former college catcher you have to know when to frame. The catching something out of the zone and pulling it back is actually more harmful than beneficial. The art is extending the arm and catching it in a natural looking position. Positioning your catchers mitt in a way to receive it closer to the zone. Most of today’s catchers do not receive the ball well.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:48 am to VerbalKint
Seems like sec is turning towards using ABS system. Could easily see if for all sec games next year
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:53 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:completely agree.
If I were an ump, I'd go opposite every 'frame' => encourage the catcher to just catch the damned pitch.
Even if umps are bad, they're not chumps. They know what's going on.
And if I'm an ump and I see a catcher trying to frame a pitch, I'd just assume the catcher is trying to fool me into calling the pitch a strike. All the more reason to call it a ball.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:06 am to VerbalKint
As a longtime umpire at multiple levels. It’s not the glove or arm reach I’m watching . The ball crossing the zone is all you’re seeing . Framing gets u very few if any calls.
In many lil league instances as a solo umpire I called the entire game from behind the pitcher. Many think it’s a better vantage pt for calling balls and strikes at that level . I agree that it is
In many lil league instances as a solo umpire I called the entire game from behind the pitcher. Many think it’s a better vantage pt for calling balls and strikes at that level . I agree that it is
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 9:33 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:19 am to RUKIDDINGME
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Framing is an art. As a former college catcher you have to know when to frame. The catching something out of the zone and pulling it back is actually more harmful than beneficial. The art is extending the arm and catching it in a natural looking position. Positioning your catchers mitt in a way to receive it closer to the zone. Most of today’s catchers do not receive the ball well.
THANK YOU
today’s catchers just generally suck. Gloves up here, then it’s on the ground, then it’s to the right trying to grab the ball pull it back into the left. So much bullshite.
Give me a subtle movement, stick the ball, catch it in the heel with the web still in the zone, make it work.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 9:20 am
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:42 am to tigerbacon
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Seems like sec is turning towards using ABS system.
Every SEC park has this technology and has so for a few years. The SEC could have put it to use anytime. They will not do so to protect the umpiring crews. At present they allegedly use it to grade the crews.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 10:54 am to Sofaking2
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Bro, our catchers struggled to catch strikes.
Can't catch a strike when a strike isn't thrown.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 11:09 am to atltiger6487
And if I'm an ump and I see a catcher trying to frame a pitch, I'd just assume the catcher is trying to fool me into calling the pitch a strike. All the more reason to call it a ball.
Same with batters starting to run to first before the call. Ive seen to many obvious balls called strikes just to prove the ump has control of the zone.
Same with batters starting to run to first before the call. Ive seen to many obvious balls called strikes just to prove the ump has control of the zone.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 12:29 pm to RUKIDDINGME
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Framing is an art. As a former college catcher you have to know when to frame. The catching something out of the zone and pulling it back is actually more harmful than beneficial. The art is extending the arm and catching it in a natural looking position. Positioning your catchers mitt in a way to receive it closer to the zone. Most of today’s catchers do not receive the ball well.
Everything you say is true but isn't consistently accurate in the college game unfortunately. Umpires consistently fall for guys pulling balls back into the strike zone. It's frustrating to watch.
Ironically, the worse the "frame" job, it seems the higher chance of success. Even with our teams. Our recent catchers are sub standard at receiving but seem to steal more strikes than Milazo, Hernandez or Papierski did.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 2:27 pm to RUKIDDINGME
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Most of today’s catchers do not receive the ball well.
No they do not. They grab from wherever and move everything back to the center. A frame should be as natural as possible to hide the outside / fringe balls to relocate them inside the zone only.
Not a ball 8” outside the zone that somehow miraculously changed direction while in the zone and ended up middle middle.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 6/7/26 at 5:23 pm to LSU Bayou Jim
They used it for the SEC tournament
Posted on 6/7/26 at 8:06 pm to pgaddxn
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However catchers in the mlb are still doing it.
Now they are starting to reverse frame to deke batters into challenging pitches that they shouldn't.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 12:01 am to 62zip
So the plot thickens. I can’t lie, I kinda appreciate this. The batter has a better eye than anyone on the ball as it approaches the zone. So honestly I’m not mad at it. If the catcher can make you, the batter, second guess yourself then that’s your fault.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:25 pm to pgaddxn
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So the plot thickens. I can’t lie, I kinda appreciate this. The batter has a better eye than anyone on the ball as it approaches the zone. So honestly I’m not mad at it. If the catcher can make you, the batter, second guess yourself then that’s your fault.
I've kinda noticed that now when there is a challenge batters and catchers are sometimes seeking each others' opinions on how they think it will go.
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