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re: If Saban stays in the NFL, is Urban Meyer the GOAT of cfb?
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:11 am to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:11 am to Tigeralum2008
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How many seasons from 2005-2015 went down to LSU/Bama?
Are you riding Bama’s coattails two days before y’all play them? Don’t kid yourself. 2005-2015 didn’t come down to LSU/Bama all the time. That only happened once.
shite, LSU lost a bunch of games in that span (5 games in 2008, 4 in 2009, 3 in 2012, 3 in 2013, 4 in 2013, 4 in 2015).
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:08 am to Gaggle
Nope. Once Tebow left he was done.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:17 am to Tornado Alley
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Are you riding Bama’s coattails two days before y’all play them? Don’t kid yourself. 2005-2015 didn’t come down to LSU/Bama all the time. That only happened once.
LSU wins in 2011 if not for Saban and is in a semifinal SECCG with UGA to beat ND in 2012 also. Potentially sitting on 3 titles after 2012 100% changes the mediocre last couple years of Miles.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:29 am to Gaggle
Meyer was never going to stay anywhere long. 6 or 7 seasons was about his max. I think back to the Steve Spurrier quote of in modern times with huge coaching salaries and bloated football budgets 12 years is about the max a coach can stay and be effective. Yes, Saban lasted 17 at Alabama but that was an anomaly and anyone who watched and is honest with themselves he looked absolutely miserable on the sidelines his last 3 seasons.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:31 am to ronricks
In fifty years, will Meyer still be on the list?
Then numbers will be more memorable than personalities:
Bear Bryant
Joe Paterno
Bowden
Tom Osborne
Looking up Osborne
Then numbers will be more memorable than personalities:
Bear Bryant
Joe Paterno
Bowden
Tom Osborne
Looking up Osborne
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National champion (1980–1984, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997)
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:34 am to Gaggle
Another fun "what if" is what would Carroll's resume look like had their been a 4 team playoff during his tenure.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 11:37 am to Gaggle
Meyer's downfall had everything to do with Meyer and little to do with Saban (or anyone else, for that matter). The traits that made him successful are the same traits that led to his demise.
He's extremely good at building a program though he was equally poor at maintaining one. Both parts of the equation are difficult but, in my opinion, sustaining or maintaining success is more difficult because of the battle with complacency. Saban & Meyer were both successful in evaluating talent and developing them as football players. However, only Saban was able to develop them into young men off the field.
Meyer's approach was to build the best football program possible, really at any figurative cost. But the fiery edge he's so well-known for also led to burnout and issues off the field because of how narrowly-focused he, and thus his players, was.
He's extremely good at building a program though he was equally poor at maintaining one. Both parts of the equation are difficult but, in my opinion, sustaining or maintaining success is more difficult because of the battle with complacency. Saban & Meyer were both successful in evaluating talent and developing them as football players. However, only Saban was able to develop them into young men off the field.
Meyer's approach was to build the best football program possible, really at any figurative cost. But the fiery edge he's so well-known for also led to burnout and issues off the field because of how narrowly-focused he, and thus his players, was.
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/7/24 at 12:39 pm to Gaggle
Probably not but it's crazy the disrespect he gets.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 12:45 pm to Tigeralum2008
Les Miles was 3-3 against Urban.
3-7 against Saban
3-7 against Saban
Posted on 11/7/24 at 12:57 pm to Gaggle
Saban ran Spurrier off while at LSU, then ran Urban off from Tuscaloosa. 
Posted on 11/7/24 at 1:27 pm to Tornado Alley
you’re forgetting how many recruiting battles came down to LSU and Bama in those days. With no Saban Les gets 1 or 2 more top end guys a year and wins probably 2 more titles. Not goat status but he would be thought of very differently.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 2:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
What is ole Les up to these days?
Posted on 11/7/24 at 3:11 pm to Gaggle
No, because if Saban stayed in the NFL then Les Miles would have probably won 2 or 3 more natties. Alabama wouldn’t have been poaching nearly as much in-state talent from LSU
Posted on 11/7/24 at 3:38 pm to 632627
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Another fun "what if" is what would Carroll's resume look like had their been a 4 team playoff during his tenure.
Hell, how many titles would Bowden have won if there had been a playoff back then?
Posted on 11/7/24 at 3:40 pm to Gaggle
If Saban stays in the NFL, Les Miles and LSU have more natties.
Posted on 11/7/24 at 4:58 pm to Muahahaha
lives a quiet life in i think the tampa suburbs or something
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 11/7/24 at 5:09 pm to POTUS2024
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That 2009 roster is the best roster, on paper, in the history of CFB
I can think of at least 5 I’d take over them. Not even sure that was a better roster than 2008 Florida
Posted on 11/7/24 at 6:15 pm to chinese58
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Saban ran Spurrier off while at LSU,
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:49 pm to Tigeralum2008
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No. Les Miles woulda been ?
How many seasons from 2005-2015 went down to LSU/Bama?
I was thinking this. Hard to say because I think both Bama and LSu being so...epic for that period made each other better ( so maybe Bama sans Saban creates less of a standard for LSU ) but...I think LSU /Miles has 3 min but probably 4 titles
I think Riicht jumps in with a possible 2 ...3 they had some serious talent in Athens also
This post was edited on 11/7/24 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 11/7/24 at 8:54 pm to Gaggle
Les Miles has 2 more championships
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