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re: I wonder If College Athletes will be able to have agents with NIL
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:38 am to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:38 am to Buckeye Backer
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Harvard
You do realize they're located IN Boston, right? I know it's not much since theyre FCS and have to keep the admission standards up, but that's an advantage they'll work to their favor in the Ivy League much like what Columbia will do in NYC.
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and Notre Dame will be afterthoughts.
You do realize they are just a few miles east of Chicago, right?
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Posted on 6/28/21 at 11:58 am to I Bleed Garnet
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Exactly, and those companies will want players going to their best programs that bring in the largest TV ratings
Bama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, ND, LSU etc etc
No...because not every player is going to get in on those type of deals. The majority of players are going to flex their collective power and unionize around guaranteed money. The players that do get shoe deals and jersey deals are going to be in the minority. The majority of these kids wont get any kind of endorsements and thats exactly why they are going to unionize and collectively bargain. The Supreme Court decision is actually a bigger deal than the NIL bills being passed. WHEN the players unionize, it will be done in a way that benifits the majority. This is where the power shift could occur. NIL was done before the Supreme Court decision. The Supreme Court decision is whats going to change college football. Players are going to be able to collectively bargain when they practice. No more 5 am workouts coach. That will all have to be collectively bargained. Again, you all are thinking about the slim minority of players who will benefit from NIL. 85% players wont make anything from NIL...but unionizing and making the Networks give them their fair share is going to be FAAAAAR superior to those 85% than NIL bills. Get reay, thats going to happen.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:04 pm to Buckeye Backer
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but unionizing and making the Networks give them their fair share is going to be FAAAAAR superior
Yes and those schools are involved in those Networks
The SEC and B10 is only going to dominate even more
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:10 pm to I Bleed Garnet
National Law Review
Highlights from the article:
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THIS....not NIL is whats going to change college football. NIL will be pennies to what players could get if they unionize and become "employees". Get ready for that to happen, because as i have stated, i would assume 85-90% of these kids wont make jack squat off of NIL. Just the stars. Collectively bargaining and getting part of their fair share will be the way any players union goes regardless of conference affiliation. The power rests with the majority of players who stand to gain nothing under a NIL "only" system. Players unionizing is going to happen. Get used to it.
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Third, colleges and universities will need to determine whether student-athletes receipt of these types of compensation transforms them into employees, entitled to mandatory benefits and possible unionization for collective bargaining purposes under the National Labor Relations Act
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Third, colleges and universities will need to determine whether student-athletes receipt of these types of compensation transforms them into employees, entitled to mandatory benefits and possible unionization for collective bargaining purposes under the National Labor Relations Act
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THIS....not NIL is whats going to change college football. NIL will be pennies to what players could get if they unionize and become "employees". Get ready for that to happen, because as i have stated, i would assume 85-90% of these kids wont make jack squat off of NIL. Just the stars. Collectively bargaining and getting part of their fair share will be the way any players union goes regardless of conference affiliation. The power rests with the majority of players who stand to gain nothing under a NIL "only" system. Players unionizing is going to happen. Get used to it.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:17 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Yes and those schools are involved in those Networks
The SEC and B10 is only going to dominate even more
Every conference will eventually have a players union. Those same networks will determine how much they want to pay those conferences, then the players will collectively bargain what percentage they think they deserve. The B1G and SEC will undoubtedly get bigger deals than other conferences, so the more a conference can make, the more money they can pay out to athletes, equals the more talent those schools can bring in. This fact, IMO, is what will most likely trigger the next round of conference expansion. Network money and how much each player will make off of their CBA will force schools to reach for the B1G and SEC. OR maybe all of this sucks and the whole dams system consumes itself and implodes. I never said i liked it lol
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 6/28/21 at 12:31 pm to Buckeye Backer
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most likely trigger the next round of conference expansion.
Oh frick yea!
Quick, what do you think the next expansion will be?
Who’s going where?!?
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:04 pm to CU_Tigers4life
What we're going to see is college athletic departments creating "conglomerates" to package donors & businesses for packages of what they can do to not only use the player likeness but also the college likness in the marketing. Because you're going to have companies try to use just the kid's face/body but when it's NOT in true school colors or apparel-it is going to look cheap & terrible.
College athletic departments will do all they can to get their cut of the pie.
On top of that we will see much more Pay for Grwdes from players to professors now that they have cash to burn so they stay eligible, even though they might not he ready for the pros.
College athletic departments will do all they can to get their cut of the pie.
On top of that we will see much more Pay for Grwdes from players to professors now that they have cash to burn so they stay eligible, even though they might not he ready for the pros.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:44 pm to Buckeye Backer
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deal and be able to do so in a "collective bargaining" era. Guaranteed millions for players will trump any "potential" money made off of NIL. 10% of a billion dollar deal is going to be life changing for EVERY player...not just the starrs.
You’re assuming an awful lot here. 10% of 1 billion is $100 mil. Divide that by 14 schools and it’s roughly $7 mil per school, and that’s before the conference takes their share. Divided by just the 85 scholarship football athletes (why we would assume they’re the only ones in the equation, I don’t know) and that’s approximately $85k per player.
Not chump-change, sure. But what conference has anywhere near a $1bil per season tv deal.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:54 pm to Buckeye Backer
I'm just glad that no one cares about Fordham basketball in NYC, because they would rule the Atlantic 10 in the new era.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:48 pm to McMillan
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I'm just glad that no one cares about Fordham basketball in NYC, because they would rule the Atlantic 10 in the new era.
Minimum 5 titles for Fordham
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:12 pm to I Bleed Garnet
It's just beginning of the end of CF - greed ruins most everything. Much more fun watching CF from 1990-2010...
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:40 pm to slackster
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People are way overestimating how much money there will be for players.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:36 am to Buckeye Backer
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disagree. I think schools like Alabama, schools in small markets will be hurt by this. They simply lack the access to corporate capital
You not making any sense here man… the conditions you speak of would exist now under your premise … the big city dollars have no problem finding small cities
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:55 am to CU_Tigers4life
Why not, they aren't amateurs anymore.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 7:17 am to kywildcatfanone
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Why not, they aren't amateurs anymore.
If they become employees, why would they have to attend class?
Posted on 6/29/21 at 7:39 am to Buckeye Backer
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disagree. I think schools like Alabama, schools in small markets will be hurt by this. They simply lack the access to corporate capital. Like I said, we will see how this all plays out. Time will tell.
So you think ND will have less access to corporate capital?
What about Oregon?
Michigan?
Penn State?
Florida?
Florida state?
Posted on 6/29/21 at 8:55 am to Oilfieldbiology
What nobody seems to be talking about is the possibility that fan interest will dwindle as players get paid and prices soar for fan experience to cover the costs. You can already see it at major universities that unless its a premier game, the stadiums are half full and a quarter full by half time.
I think you eventually will see the popularity of "minor league football" die out as nobody will associate it with their college experience and players will be begging for the old format of scholarships (30,40, 50 years from now)
I think you eventually will see the popularity of "minor league football" die out as nobody will associate it with their college experience and players will be begging for the old format of scholarships (30,40, 50 years from now)
Posted on 6/29/21 at 8:58 am to lsulefty5
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What nobody seems to be talking about is the possibility that fan interest will dwindle as players get paid and prices soar for fan experience to cover the costs.
How? They aren’t being paid by the universities.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 9:47 am to Oilfieldbiology
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So you think ND will have less access to corporate capital?
What about Oregon?
Michigan?
Penn State?
Florida?
Florida state?
Absolutely! What will Penn State be able to offer recruits in term of corporate capital for NIL? State College? There are no possibilities to market NIL to recruits in the middle of nowhere PA. Schools with with access to more people and corporate capital are at distinct advantage moving forward.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 9:51 am to Oilfieldbiology
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How? They aren’t being paid by the universities.
Not true. AGAIN, for the 100th time, the Supreme Court decision is a bigger deal than NIL bills. WHEN players unionize, they will become "employees" of said universities. Guaranteed money will be the way players vote to go. NIL wont benefit 85% of these players. Unionizing, then being able to collectively bargain for their fair share of network money will be the way they go. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers will vote to unionize quickly! Quit thinking about NIL....unionization is the biggest change coming to college football. Players will 100% be paid by universities through collectively bargaining. I cant believe people haven't woken up to this yet?
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 9:52 am
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