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I wonder If College Athletes will be able to have agents with NIL
Posted on 6/28/21 at 6:55 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 6:55 am
Has anyone heard or read anything about this? Can you imagine an agent calling Nick Saban about one of his players needing time away to do a commercial shoot?
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:10 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Has anyone heard or read anything about this? Can you imagine an agent calling Nick Saban about one of his players needing time away to do a commercial shoot?
Not only that, my guess is that with the Supreme Court decision, NIL is jus the first step. The players are going to 100% unionize and be able to collectively bargain. They will get a cut of TV Network deals...all of it. Its going to be FAR worse than anybody could have ever imagined. Coaches will no longer be selling their programs/success, but rather they will be selling the cities/ markets and access to $$$$ that they are located in. A school like Rutgers for example, could be on the verge of a golden era. They will be able to go into recruits homes, and sell them and their parents on being able to market their NIL in New York City. Thats going to be HUGE. Making as much money in College Football will now be the game to sway recruits. Making the NFL and making money in the NFL is never guaranteed, but if you come to Rutgers, we will have you on billboards in Times Square. Those will be what recruits will hear. That's a powerful powerful recruiting pitch!! Things are about to change in college football. Nothing ever stays the same. Go back to the 30's, 40's and 50's and tell everybody that in 50 years, Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Army, Navy and Notre Dame will be afterthoughts...everyone would call you crazy!! Who knows, with NIL, in 50 years...Rutgers could be the powerhouse program of a generation? Never know!!
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:20 am to Buckeye Backer
I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I don't think areas that have huge Pro-Sports footprints will compete against a place like Tuscaloosa where college football is a state religion and the donors that will shell out stupid money.
What I will say is the Southern states and the nation of Texas will have a significant advantage over the northern states. Miami wins over New York for example.
I'm just glad I was able to see my team compete and succeed at the highest level before this new era begins.
What I will say is the Southern states and the nation of Texas will have a significant advantage over the northern states. Miami wins over New York for example.
I'm just glad I was able to see my team compete and succeed at the highest level before this new era begins.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:22 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:23 am to CU_Tigers4life
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I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I don't think areas that have huge Pro-Sports footprints will compete against a place like Tuscaloosa where college football is a state religion and the donors that will shell out stupid money.
What I will say is the Southern states and the nation of Texas will have a significant advantage over the northern states. Miami wins over New York for example.
I'm just glad I was able to see my team compete and succeed at the highest level before this new era begins.
Disagree 100%. The B1G has MASSIVE universities. There wont be any conference that has an advantage of the B1G when it comes to that. Also, when it comes to marketing and corporate sponsorship...on what freaking planet does Miami win over New York City??
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:27 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:25 am to Buckeye Backer
I don't know about the unionizing thing. If they do that, scholarships go away.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:25 am to CU_Tigers4life
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agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I don't think areas that have huge Pro-Sports footprints will compete against a place like Tuscaloosa where college football is a state religion and the donors that will shell out stupid money.
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Miami wins over New York for example.
Terrible example. Nobody in Miami cares about Miami football. A better example would be say, UT in that there are more vols fans than titan fans in the state of Tennessee. A big state
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:29 am to Bunk Moreland
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I don't know about the unionizing thing. If they do that, scholarships go away.
Players are going to unionize 100%. If players can guarantee 10% of Network deals through collectively bargaining for example, that makes them millionaires in college. Remember not every player is guaranteed to make anything while in college. Stars will for sure make money off of their NIL, but that wont be the rule for everyone. There are FAR more players who wont make the NFL. Those players will vote overwhelmingly to unionize. Players will then be able to dictate practice times, full contact drills...etc. The Supreme Court just paved the way for this.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:30 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:29 am to Oilfieldbiology
A local sports talk radio show host Charles Henagrfit left his job and is working for a start up company Match Point that will work with college athletes in the NIL landscape.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:33 am to Bunk Moreland
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I don't know about the unionizing thing. If they do that, scholarships go away
And? If they are millionaires, due to unionizing and then be able to collectively bargain, what does it matter at that point? Hell, the universities might push for them to unionize if it means they don't have to pay for their scholarships.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:34 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:33 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Miami wins over New York for example.
Terrible example. Nobody in Miami cares about Miami football. A better example would be say, UT in that there are more vols fans than titan fans in the state of Tennessee. A big state
I disagree...College football has no interest in the North. Miami has beaches, hot women, celebrities, great weather year round and the U will get up for games. Also, Big TV desperately wants the U back and that is another reason places like Rutgers and Boston College will never win.
I wasn't hating on the Big 10...like the ACC, certain places have a better footprint than others. That Ohio area would prosper bigly.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:34 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:35 am to nicholastiger
Agree advertising will be influence players. Places like New York and Los Angeles will have a new advantage. Places like Texas will have to pull more from donors than advertising for recruits. Local car dealerships everyone will have but more national advertising will be favored in the big markets. More interested to see how this may affect college coaches. College was always a big pay day but now athletes will start seeing that. Yes there is history in Alabama but no big advertising market. Agree this could change the shape of the powerhouses.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:36 am to CU_Tigers4life
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I disagree...College football has no interest in the North. Miami has beaches, hot women, celebrate, great weather year round and the U will get up for games. Also, Big TV desperately wants the U back and that is another reason places like Rutgers and Boston College will never win.
I wasn't hating on the Big 10...like the ACC, certain places have a better footprint than others. That Ohio area would prosper bigly.
Ask ANY network exec... would they rather Rutgers be in the top 10 or Miami and all of them would prefer Rutgers. NYC > Miami any day of the week. Just look at what Schiano is already doing at Rutgers!! If Rutgers can get it going, TV execs will flip.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:40 am to LSUJuicer
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Agree advertising will be influence players. Places like New York and Los Angeles will have a new advantage. Places like Texas will have to pull more from donors than advertising for recruits. Local car dealerships everyone will have but more national advertising will be favored in the big markets. More interested to see how this may affect college coaches. College was always a big pay day but now athletes will start seeing that. Yes there is history in Alabama but no big advertising market. Agree this could change the shape of the powerhouses.
Agree 100%!!!! This is what nobody wants to admit. Again, recruiting will no longer be about on field success, but rather how much money they can make while at any particular university. In particular the AAC is in a great spot. Schools in large metros will have a distinct advantage. It will be about access to $$$$. Cities like Tuscaloosa or Clemson just wont have as much access to $$$ vs a school like UCLA or Rutgers. A school like UCLA, USC or Rutgers is no doubt licking their chops over this. The marketing for NIL is limitless in those mega cities.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:42 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:41 am to LSUJuicer
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Agree advertising will be influence players. Places like New York and Los Angeles will have a new advantage. Places like Texas will have to pull more from donors than advertising for recruits. Local car dealerships everyone will have but more national advertising will be favored in the big markets. More interested to see how this may affect college coaches. College was always a big pay day but now athletes will start seeing that. Yes there is history in Alabama but no big advertising market. Agree this could change the shape of the powerhouses.
Where is all of this money right now?
Why would a company in New York or LA care about CFB because of these rulings? There are only so many dollars to gl around in CFB. If you weren’t spending it on CFB before these changes, I don’t see why you’d start now.
I’ve argued from day 1 that these changes are much ado about nothing. People are way overestimating how much money there will be for players.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:42 am to Buckeye Backer
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Ask ANY network exec... would they rather Rutgers be in the top 10 or Miami and all of them would prefer Rutgers. NYC > Miami any day of the week. Just look at what Schiano is already doing at Rutgers!! If Rutgers can get it going, TV execs will flip.
You may be right. I just don't think Pro Sports and their fans will ever fully embrace college sports in like they do in the South and mid-America.
Here's the other thing. We are only talking about a small handful of players that will make any significant bank. They still have play well and have a following to prosper.
My guess is they will make more money on Social Media than cutting a commercial and "Honest Ryan's Used Cars"
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:43 am to slackster
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Where is all of this money right now?
Why would a company in New York or LA care about CFB because of these rulings? There are only so many dollars to gl around in CFB. If you weren’t spending it on CFB before these changes, I don’t see why you’d start now.
I’ve argued from day 1 that these changes are much ado about nothing. People are way overestimating how much money there will be for players.
Sitting on the sideline because it was illegal!?!?!? Let me ask...Why would a company NOT use it, now that its legal, if it means increasing their visibility and enhancing their brand? We will see...only time will tell.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:48 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Here's the other thing. We are only talking about a small handful of players that will make any significant bank. They still have play well and have a following to prosper
THIS is why the players are going to unionize! For this exact reason. Now that players are free to unionize, they will be able to collectively bargain for guaranteed money. A conference like the B1G will demand an incredible amount of money because of the markets that exist in its footprint. Players being guaranteed a certain amount of money due to collective bargaining will also be a huge tool for recruiting. If say the B1G players unionize and the SEC or ACC doesn't, that gives the B1G a distinct advantage in recruiting. Imagine being a coach recruiting a kid and walking into their house and having their family rep say, Rutgers guarantees my kid being a millionaire when he is done with school. What does Clemson have to offer? That money will ALWAYS win. Thats where we are headed. It is going to be about $$$$. Donors will have nothing on the guaranteed millions from collectively bargaining.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:49 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:50 am to Buckeye Backer
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A school like Rutgers for example, could be on the verge of a golden era. They will be able to go into recruits homes, and sell them and their parents on being able to market their NIL in New York City.
No one in NYC gives a shite about Rutgers
Ohio State probably has a larger presence there
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but if you come to Rutgers, we will have you on billboards in Times Square.
You can do that with any other much larger followed school, like Alabama, or Ohio State or Texas.
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Notre Dame will be afterthoughts...everyone would call you crazy
ND still isn’t an afterthought.
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Rutgers could be the powerhouse program of a generation?
I don’t think so.
The same schools spending the most now, will spend more under this
Large companies HQ’d in NYC will give money to the large Universities that already make the most money
ND, Bama, Ohio State, Michigan etc
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:54 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:54 am to I Bleed Garnet
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No one in NYC gives a shite about Rutgers
Ohio State probably has a larger presence there
Because Rutgers has sucked. We will see how that changes and when it does...look out. You are using the past to dictate the future. The past means NOTHING now. Its going to be about $$$.
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I don’t think so.
The same schools spending the most now, will spend more under this
Well, we will see wont we. I think differently. I don't think ANY current school knows who is going to be leading the way in 10 years. If you think that access to $$$, which means access to people, doesn't factor into this, then you have no idea how marketing works. Rutgers has a HUGE opportunity...and you know it!!
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 7:55 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:54 am to Buckeye Backer
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Sitting on the sideline because it was illegal!?!?!? Let me ask...Why would a company NOT use it, now that its legal, if it means increasing their visibility and enhancing their brand? We will see...only time will tell.
So a company that’s hasn’t been associated with LSU FB in any capacity is now going to start spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the QB to solicit their knick knacks?
Nah.
A couple thousand for a local ad, sure, but this whole reshaping of the CFB landscape is overblown. There simply isn’t enough money to keep up the arms race and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for marketing of key players. There isn’t enough room in the marketing budget to go around.
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