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re: I wonder If College Athletes will be able to have agents with NIL
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:56 am to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:56 am to Buckeye Backer
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Ask ANY network exec... would they rather Rutgers be in the top 10 or Miami and all of them would prefer Rutgers
I don’t think this is true at all
That’s like saying would they rather Rutgers over Alabama or Ohio State because NYC is bigger than both of their towns
Execs rather Alabama or OSU
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Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:56 am to Buckeye Backer
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Well, we will see wont we. I think differently. I don't think ANY current school knows who is going to be leading the way in 10 years. If you think that access to $$$, which means access to people, doesn't factor into this, then you have no idea how marketing works. Rutgers has a HUGE opportunity...and you know it!!
You seem super insecure about Rutgers.
Coach Day’s timid nature is rubbing off on the fans.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:58 am to Buckeye Backer
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Because Rutgers has sucked. We will see how that changes and when it does...look out. You are using the past to dictate the future. The past means NOTHING now. Its going to be about $$$.
Even if they got good, they have a lotta pro teams to get over in the marketing pecking order
Big corps ain’t giving their money to Rutgers
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Well, we will see wont we. I think differently. I don't think ANY current school knows who is going to be leading the way in 10 years. If you think that access to $$$, which means access to people, doesn't factor into this, then you have no idea how marketing works. Rutgers has a HUGE opportunity...and you know it!!
I bet you Rutgers will be about where it is, maybe a little better in 10 years
NYC will give more billboards/advertisements etc to ND, Michigan, Alabama etc players than Rutgers
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 8:00 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 7:59 am to slackster
National Sports brands can sign a kid wherever he goes. Now what might happen is something along the line of a player making a decision based upon what company has a colleges Sports attire.
Let's say a kid is being offered big dollars to sign with a college but it has to be at a place that uses their product. They don't want to see a kid wearing Under Armor if Nike has signed them
This rabbit hole is going to get deep
Let's say a kid is being offered big dollars to sign with a college but it has to be at a place that uses their product. They don't want to see a kid wearing Under Armor if Nike has signed them
This rabbit hole is going to get deep
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 8:00 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:00 am to slackster
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So a company that’s hasn’t been associated with LSU FB in any capacity is now going to start spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to get the QB to solicit their knick knacks?
Nah.
A couple thousand for a local ad, sure, but this whole reshaping of the CFB landscape is overblown. There simply isn’t enough money to keep up the arms race and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for marketing of key players. There isn’t enough room in the marketing budget to go around.
Collective Bargaining is going to happen for everything that you all are counter arguing. The 4th string Left Tackle understands this. Players, schools and Conferences will unionize and then be able to collectively bargain. in 2 years, when the B1G is able to do that by Supreme Court Law, they will swing the power structure to their benefit. The B1G will have a leg up on every other conference due to "guaranteed millions" coming from networks from the CBA. That is going to happen. Mark that down. The B1G will be the first conference to able to restructure their deal and be able to do so in a "collective bargaining" era. Guaranteed millions for players will trump any "potential" money made off of NIL. 10% of a billion dollar deal is going to be life changing for EVERY player...not just the starrs.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 8:01 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:05 am to CU_Tigers4life
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National Sports brands can sign a kid wherever he goes. Now what might happen is something along the line of a player making a decision based upon what company has a colleges Sports attire.
Let's say a kid is being offered big dollars to sign with a college but it has to be at a place that uses their product. They don't want to see a kid wearing Under Armor if Nike has signed them
This rabbit hole is going to get deep
Unless under a CBA, they cant. This is where i am saying the power of the many will override the power of the few. Most players on the team wont be able to make jack shite unless they unionize. There might be 5-10 guys on any team that can make money, but the power of collectively bargaining will be powerful. Guaranteed money will always override potential money. When the teams vote, i will bet my life earnings that they vote to unionize. My quess, is that part of the CBA will be certain schools and conferences will prohibit certain things...like being able to sign with individual brands vs singing with brands that the conference sees fit. This is where its going to get wild...but make no mistake, unionization and collective bargaining is coming...100%
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:05 am to Buckeye Backer
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Collective Bargaining is going to happen for everything that you all are counter arguing. The 4th string Left Tackle understands this. Players, schools and Conferences will unionize and then be able to collectively bargain. in 2 years, when the B1G is able to do that by Supreme Court Law, they will swing the power structure to their benefit. The B1G will have a leg up on every other conference due to "guaranteed millions" coming from networks from the CBA. That is going to happen. Mark that down. The B1G will be the first conference to able to restructure their deal and be able to do so in a "collective bargaining" era. Guaranteed millions for players will trump any "potential" money made off of NIL. 10% of a billion dollar deal is going to be life changing for EVERY player...not just the starrs.
So the power will go to the major conference schools just like it always has. Shocker.
Again, all the handwringing over this is ridiculous.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:09 am to slackster
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So the power will go to the major conference schools just like it always has. Shocker.
Again, all the handwringing over this is ridiculous.
Which swings the power structure of college football. If the B1G gets the largest payout...which it will in 2 years...and the players of each school are able to generate 10% of that deal into guaranteed income, it will give a school like Rutgers a leg up on any school that doesn't have that CBA in place. Like i said, Rutgers will be able to use the power of guaranteed money when entering ANY recruits house, over any school that doesn't have that CBA in place.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 8:10 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:20 am to Buckeye Backer
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place. Like i said, Rutgers will be able to use the power of guaranteed money when entering ANY recruits house, over any school that doesn't have that CBA in place.
So this has nothing to do with NYC having a billboard then the Big Ten having a larger footprint
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:23 am to Buckeye Backer
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Which swings the power structure of college football. If the B1G gets the largest payout...which it will in 2 years...and the players of each school are able to generate 10% of that deal into guaranteed income, it will give a school like Rutgers a leg up on any school that doesn't have that CBA in place. Like i said, Rutgers will be able to use the power of guaranteed money when entering ANY recruits house, over any school that doesn't have that CBA in place.
If you think the B1G will be paying players when it renegotiates while the SEC just sits on their hands bound by a contract. ESPN and CBS will renegotiate before they watch all the best players flow to one conference.
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 8:25 am
Posted on 6/28/21 at 8:31 am to slackster
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If you think the B1G will be paying players when it renegotiates while the SEC just sits on their hands bound by a contract.
ESPN and CBS will renegotiate before they watch all the best players flow to one conference.
Yea the SEC and Big Ten will lead the way in this
As they do now
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:39 am to CU_Tigers4life
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Here's the other thing. We are only talking about a small handful of players that will make any significant bank. They still have play well and have a following to prosper.
Doesn’t matter. Teams can play like shite and universities and TV deals still pay out. The money is there regardless. Unions will happen
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:47 am to Tshiz
To simply answer the OP's question. Yes.
Bama has already set into motion the program for hooking kids up with credible sponsors and how to become a legitimate businessman.
It all happens only after the kid has signed for a University. Big business sticks their greedy nose into a kid's recruitment before they sign then here comes Big Brother to show the error of their ways.
Bama has already set into motion the program for hooking kids up with credible sponsors and how to become a legitimate businessman.
It all happens only after the kid has signed for a University. Big business sticks their greedy nose into a kid's recruitment before they sign then here comes Big Brother to show the error of their ways.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:48 am to bamameister
Bama is about to get even bigger
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:54 am to I Bleed Garnet
I disagree. I think schools like Alabama, schools in small markets will be hurt by this. They simply lack the access to corporate capital. Like I said, we will see how this all plays out. Time will tell.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 9:59 am to slackster
A quick Google search. In 2018 the top 200 companies advertising budgets totaled 160 billion dollars. Yeah there is enough money to go around.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:00 am to Buckeye Backer
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ot only that, my guess is that with the Supreme Court decision, NIL is jus the first step. The players are going to 100% unionize and be able to collectively bargain. They will get a cut of TV Network deals...all of it. Its going to be FAR worse than anybody could have ever imagined. Coaches will no longer be selling their programs/success, but rather they will be selling the cities/ markets and access to $$$$ that they are located in. A school like Rutgers for example, could be on the verge of a golden era. They will be able to go into recruits homes, and sell them and their parents on being able to market their NIL in New York City. Thats going to be HUGE. Making as much money in College Football will now be the game to sway recruits. Making the NFL and making money in the NFL is never guaranteed, but if you come to Rutgers, we will have you on billboards in Times Square. Those will be what recruits will hear. That's a powerful powerful recruiting pitch!! Things are about to change in college football. Nothing ever stays the same. Go back to the 30's, 40's and 50's and tell everybody that in 50 years, Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Army, Navy and Notre Dame will be afterthoughts...everyone would call you crazy!! Who knows, with NIL, in 50 years...Rutgers could be the powerhouse program of a generation? Never know!!
Its the beginning of the end. Greed ruins everything. It started with the universities and conferences selling out everything to get the TV and endorsement money and now its trickled down to everybody wanting their own piece of the pie.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:11 am to Buckeye Backer
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I disagree. I think schools like Alabama, schools in small markets will be hurt by this. They simply lack the access to corporate capital. Like I said, we will see how this all plays out. Time will tell.
The Universities better not have any access to cooperate capital. The balance of power wouldn't be corporate America picking and choosing which school will pay their players more.
For example, I suspect there will be a ton of sneaker and apparel deals that care about only one thing, the next great player to market their product at the pro level.
This is exactly how Nike, Adidas, and the gang have been paying off college basketball players down to their youth camps for decades.
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:32 am to Buckeye Backer
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They simply lack the access to corporate capital.
No they don’t
Posted on 6/28/21 at 10:33 am to bamameister
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For example, I suspect there will be a ton of sneaker and apparel deals that care about only one thing, the next great player to market their product at the pro level.
This is exactly how Nike, Adidas, and the gang have been paying off college basketball players down to their youth camps for decades.
Exactly, and those companies will want players going to their best programs that bring in the largest TV ratings
Bama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, ND, LSU etc etc
This post was edited on 6/28/21 at 10:36 am
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