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re: I wonder If College Athletes will be able to have agents with NIL
Posted on 6/29/21 at 9:52 am to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 6/29/21 at 9:52 am to Buckeye Backer
Of the universities i mentioned, I see FSU and Oregon having the most issues. Why? Because people don’t care as much about those programs as the others. Despite them being in small cities, all the others have massive fanbases and significant population centers/areas with large followings.
Nebraska is another school that will take advantage of NIL. If their fanbase isn’t repulsed by the idea of athletes making NIL money, the fanbase will support the athletes as lush, if not more so than any other.
Nebraska is another school that will take advantage of NIL. If their fanbase isn’t repulsed by the idea of athletes making NIL money, the fanbase will support the athletes as lush, if not more so than any other.
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Posted on 6/29/21 at 9:54 am to Buckeye Backer
I’m curious to see how that plays out because if schools are required to comply with title IX and pay unionized athletes, as employees, portions of revenues, that means the benefits provided to the male athletes will
Have to be equal to female ones. If that’s the case still, it will completely bankrupt athletic departments and you will see every male sport outside of football and basketball eventually cut.
Have to be equal to female ones. If that’s the case still, it will completely bankrupt athletic departments and you will see every male sport outside of football and basketball eventually cut.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 9:54 am to Buckeye Backer
You’re greatly overestimating the popularity of college sports in major media markets.
Time is a fixed resource and fans only have so much time to pay attention to sports.
People in NYC who are into sports have the Knicks, Nets, Jets, Giants, Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Islanders, Red Bulls, and now NYC FC, which has a ton of money backing it.
Except when they are at their absolute pinnacle, programs like USC and Miami cannot sell out their stadiums or even come close and USC in particular has history going back 75-80 years.
Also I agree with posters who have said this mostly impacts and legitimizes the Gray/Black market more than anything.
The vast majority of athletes aren’t going to get anything more than local endorsements which were previously hidden envelopes from bag men. Those are the big winners in all of this bc soon they can not only chase clout by bringing athletes to the schools they support but they can also brag about it publicly through ads.
Time is a fixed resource and fans only have so much time to pay attention to sports.
People in NYC who are into sports have the Knicks, Nets, Jets, Giants, Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Islanders, Red Bulls, and now NYC FC, which has a ton of money backing it.
Except when they are at their absolute pinnacle, programs like USC and Miami cannot sell out their stadiums or even come close and USC in particular has history going back 75-80 years.
Also I agree with posters who have said this mostly impacts and legitimizes the Gray/Black market more than anything.
The vast majority of athletes aren’t going to get anything more than local endorsements which were previously hidden envelopes from bag men. Those are the big winners in all of this bc soon they can not only chase clout by bringing athletes to the schools they support but they can also brag about it publicly through ads.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:00 am to Buckeye Backer
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What will Penn State be able to offer recruits in term of corporate capital for NIL? State College? There are no possibilities to market NIL to recruits in the middle of nowhere PA. Schools with with access to more people and corporate capital are at distinct advantage moving forward.
There are probably more Penn State Alums working in high up positions at corporations in NYC than there are Rutgers Alums
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:06 am to Keys Open Doors
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You’re greatly overestimating the popularity of college sports in major media markets.
Time is a fixed resource and fans only have so much time to pay attention to sports.
People in NYC who are into sports have the Knicks, Nets, Jets, Giants, Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Islanders, Red Bulls, and now NYC FC, which has a ton of money backing it
I think you’re underestimating how much NYC cares about college sports
But I also think Buckeye is overestimating Rutgers
There are more fans/alums that care about sports from a lot of other colleges that feed to NYC than Rutgers
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:10 am to Buckeye Backer
The SEC deal is 300 million a year. Split 14 ways, that is about 21.5 million a per school. Split into a 50/50 revenue split (which is super favorable for the athletes), that is just under 11 million per team let year.
Split 85 ways, that is about 130K per year, with no in-kind factoring of things like housing (also insurance will be provided and be counted against that as well).
Of course that assumes a 50/50 split which will not happen and also that all of the money goes to football, which also definitely won’t happen.
However that 130K gives you a top end number to play with. Also that 21.5 million per school is a high end number because it is for the SEC.
It is very easy to see how that 130K becomes 40-50K or less on a collective bargaining deal. Not nothing but there is a reason why practice squad nfl players make the salaries they do.
People focus on the top end number and not how much actually goes to individuals. The pie is huge but there are a ton of slices.
Split 85 ways, that is about 130K per year, with no in-kind factoring of things like housing (also insurance will be provided and be counted against that as well).
Of course that assumes a 50/50 split which will not happen and also that all of the money goes to football, which also definitely won’t happen.
However that 130K gives you a top end number to play with. Also that 21.5 million per school is a high end number because it is for the SEC.
It is very easy to see how that 130K becomes 40-50K or less on a collective bargaining deal. Not nothing but there is a reason why practice squad nfl players make the salaries they do.
People focus on the top end number and not how much actually goes to individuals. The pie is huge but there are a ton of slices.
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 10:12 am
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:16 am to Buckeye Backer
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The players are going to 100% unionize and be able to collectively bargain.
only undergrad students at private universities have the right to unionize
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:21 am to TigerintheNO
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only undergrad students at private universities have the right to unionize
shite, Vandy, stacked
Sec fuuuuuuucked
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:25 am to I Bleed Garnet
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shite, Vandy, stacked
They’re still vandy
The type of money coming in won’t be enough to put lipstick on pigs
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:28 am to chalmetteowl
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They’re still vandy
Aren’t they about to win a baseball title again?
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:44 am to I Bleed Garnet
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Aren’t they about to win a baseball title again?
Whoever wins splits it with North Carolina State. Think LSU and USC
This post was edited on 6/29/21 at 10:45 am
Posted on 6/29/21 at 10:51 am to chalmetteowl
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Whoever wins splits it with North Carolina State. Think LSU and USC
Vandy 3 North Carolina State 1. Think tiebreaker.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 11:00 am to bamameister
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Vandy 3 North Carolina State 1. Think tiebreaker.
It’s double elimination and they lost once
Posted on 6/29/21 at 11:25 am to chalmetteowl
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It’s double elimination and they lost once
Actually, NCS got beat by Vandy on the field. Then NCS got beat by protocol. That's double elimination my fiend.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 11:53 am to CU_Tigers4life
I am available if so,;whatever the current leech rate is, I'll undercut it.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 12:19 pm to CU_Tigers4life
Hiw about like golf, where investors buy shares against future earnings.
Posted on 6/29/21 at 9:03 pm to CU_Tigers4life
College sports will be ruined with this I’m afraid. Half of the college football players probably don’t belong in a classroom.
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:35 am to Buckeye Backer
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I disagree. I think schools like Alabama, schools in small markets will be hurt by this. They simply lack the access to corporate capital. Like I said, we will see how this all plays out. Time will tell.
LSU just put up a billboard in time square
Looks like LSU is taking Rutgers “market”
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