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re: How to fix the BCS system in a very simple way and solve all problems
Posted on 12/29/11 at 2:57 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Posted on 12/29/11 at 2:57 pm to DucksflyinPAC
If the only way to make the "playoffs" is to win the conference, why would anyone give a shite about OOC games? They would be completely meaningless
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Posted on 12/29/11 at 2:57 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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Problems with BCS:
1)No true Champion.
huh?
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)The NCAA does not control the BCS, the Bowls do.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:00 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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However, can you imagine the joy of your team making it through a Conference champ game, then past the first round lets say at the Normal Sugar Bowl, and now finds itself in the Final 4?
I think the people would show up.
The logistics of a fan base being able to pay their way through a conference title game, a BCS playoff game, and a National title game.. all taking place a week or so after Christmas in this economy? Only the uber rich would be able to make their way through that gauntlet, regardless of the fan bases joy.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:02 pm to jcole4lsu
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lsu, one of the best traveling fan bases in the country, didnt show up at all for the SEC CG. they had already traveled to dallas, morgantown, and planned a visit down to new orleans for the bcs title game. there is only X amount of funds to go around. you are asking fans to travel too many times.
Thanks for sharing bud! You bring up some excellent points i never really thought out.
But maybe if it round 2 and the final round 3 were in one central neat place like Dallas Cowboy Stadium (back to back games there for round 2, 1 week later for final round 3 title game) more fans would come? But then, if not, who cares. Everyone could watch it on TV. And those that want to play extra and watch it persona, more power to them. But this is a fact: TV Ratings would be through the ROOF! Millions and Millions of Dollars would be generated for TV networks and Conferences and Schools...
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:03 pm to theGarnetWay
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The logistics of a fan base being able to pay their way through a conference title game, a BCS playoff game, and a National title game.. all taking place a week or so after Christmas in this economy? Only the uber rich would be able to make their way through that gauntlet, regardless of the fan bases joy.
thank you
add in a premier neutral site game and you can forget it.
i cannot believe people are unable to figure this stuff out
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:07 pm to lsumatt
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If the only way to make the "playoffs" is to win the conference, why would anyone give a shite about OOC games? They would be completely meaningless
Actually I made reference about this issue in my long post(sorry it was long btw). Actually it is the opposite issue. Now OOC games because HUGE- for the fans, more money for schools. Everyone and their brother now suddenly (speaking to YOU SEC AD's) wants to play big OOC games because they do not lose out if they lose one. They can still make it to the Conference Battle Playoffs. All of a sudden you don't see or need rent-a-wins. Tell me which fan would not be happy to see those crappy rent-a-wins go away and see to matchups all OOC?
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:17 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Type one clearly thought-out sentence. I dare you.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:20 pm to ToesOnTheNose213
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Type one clearly thought-out sentence. I dare you.
You yourself just typed out more then one.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:27 pm to DucksflyinPAC
I don't want to read all of that crap, but 2 points, 8 teams is too many, especially if you only take conference champs. sorry, clemson and WVU should not play for the NC while Bama and Stanford sit out.
they are voted on based on what they did in the season, if it was just a popularity vote, Notre Dame would be in every year.
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however this is still a mythical paper champion because how those 2 teams got there were voted in, not earned in.
they are voted on based on what they did in the season, if it was just a popularity vote, Notre Dame would be in every year.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:37 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Not reading all that - bad post - csb - don't care, still posting - you don't own the site - I'll post in whatever threads I want - deal with it
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:47 pm to H-Town Tiger
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while Bama and Stanford sit out.
They easily should sit out. This is not about finding out who is #2, it is about finding out who is #1, and it has been proven Stanford and Bama are NOT #1 already.
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they are voted on based on what they did in the season
That there is the problem. Teams have been "voted" on. And such teams as my team early last decade clearly got screwed out of the Title game. Oklahoma played Colorado in the Big 12 Champ game and OU lost bad. But the BCS at the time put way more stalk on computer rankings and well, the loser of that game, OU got in the title game only to get crushed in the Natty that year. While my team, Oregon played Colorado(the Big 12 champ, who beat OU, who got in that Natty) and Oregon smoked em and ended up #2 in final rankings. Everyone on the planet believed my Oregon got screwed and that is why the BCS system was changed(making computers only value now one third of formula). BTW, that was the year of our most famous UO player and QB- Joey Harrington.
Plus many believe Auburn got screwed one year. Plus Many believe USC(w) got screwed out of entering one year. Same with Utah a couple years ago, going undefeated and yet crushing Bama in the Sugar Bowl... and BSU another, and I felt the BCS get it right last year with my UO and AU. However I really feel for TCU fans in that how do we really know if they could of beat my team or Auburn? We will never know. And therein lies the problem.
I esp feel bad for the great mid major undefeated teams like Utah and BSU and TCU. We really do not know how good they were and do not know if they could of won a title or not. The world will never know... AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED! I don't like BSU and other mid majors and feel they play nobody compared to the major Conferences, but I agree with the little guys that they do not have a chance and they should deserve a chance!
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:52 pm to NaturalBeam
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Not reading all that - bad post - csb - don't care, still posting - you don't own the site - I'll post in whatever threads I want - deal with it
You're right... You can post in any thread you wish. However you have no right to bitch if a post is too long if the author of it warned you in advance if such is too long in your view to just skip it and not read!
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:55 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Are you 12?
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:56 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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They easily should sit out. This is not about finding out who is #2, it is about finding out who is #1, and it has been proven Stanford and Bama are NOT #1 already
Then LSU is National Champ, no playoff of any kind should be played based on that statement.
Every one besides LSU has proven they are not #1.
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That there is the problem. Teams have been "voted" on.
Sorry, but this isn't pro sports were you can just rank teams based on record. There has to be some process of determining who gets in and where they are seeded.
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OU got in the title game only to get crushed in the Natty that year. While my team, Oregon played Colorado(the Big 12 champ, who beat OU, who got in that Natty) and Oregon smoked em and ended up #2 in final rankings. Everyone on the planet believed my Oregon got screwed and that is why the BCS system was changed(making computers only value now one third of formula). BTW, that was the year of our most famous UO player and QB- Joey Harrington.
That was 2001 It was Nebraska, not OU, it was also the last regular season game, not the Big 12 title game that CU killed them and they didn't make the computers 1/3 of the BCS until after the 2003 season, which did involve OU losing the Big 12 CG bad, but it was USC, not Oregon.
Some one is always going to get screwed, because there are too many teams, so some arbitary cut off has to be made.
If its just taking conference champs that would be a travesty. They did that in Basketball in the past and ended it.
4 teams would have ended all of the worst BCS contraversies.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:56 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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Many times if a team loses 1 game (or 2 depending on the season) they are out of a Title chance
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Create a mini playoff between conference champs of each conference
These don't fit together. Stanford beat USC who beat Oregon who beat Stanford. Why does only Oregon get a shot?
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:57 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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They easily should sit out. This is not about finding out who is #2, it is about finding out who is #1, and it has been proven Stanford and Bama are NOT #1 already
oregon has been proven not #1 as well this season.
under no circumstances should you have to be conf champ to be included in a playoff. i can at least see the argument for the current system, but if we went to a 4 team playoff (plus one) or true 8 team + playoff there is no reason to limit the participants to conf champs.
hell you could make the argument that the SEC's top 5 teams could beat all of the current conf champs.
LSU vs Okie State
BAMA vs Oregon
ARK vs Clemson
UGA vs Wisky
USC vs West Virginia
ill take the sec in every game except UGA/Wisky and that game would be a toss up
Posted on 12/29/11 at 3:57 pm to The White Lobster
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Are you 12?
You do meth?
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:05 pm to corndeaux
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These don't fit together. Stanford beat USC who beat Oregon who beat Stanford. Why does only Oregon get a shot?
Do I have to explain? The PAC went from a RR(which UO still would of won the PAC if they stayed with the old RR) unto a new Conference Champ game. Oregon won their division, and won Champ game= Oregon won Conference. USC had 2 Conference loses. Stanford and Oregon each only had one but Oregon owned the tie breaker from crushing Stanford. Stanford also did not play LSU. OOC game never count for Conference Championships IN ANY CONFERENCE. Does any have to really explain this to you?
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:06 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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Does any have to really explain this to you?
so bama is eliminated by losing to lsu by 3 but oregon is not eliminated by losing to lsu by a shite load.
you are hopeless.
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