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re: How to fix the BCS system in a very simple way and solve all problems
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:07 pm to DucksflyinPAC
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:07 pm to DucksflyinPAC
not yet today.
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Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:08 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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Do I have to explain? The PAC went from a RR(which UO still would of won the PAC if they stayed with the old RR) unto a new Conference Champ game. Oregon won their division, and won Champ game= Oregon won Conference. USC had 2 Conference loses. Stanford and Oregon each only had one but Oregon owned the tie breaker from crushing Stanford. Stanford also did not play LSU. OOC game never count for Conference Championships IN ANY CONFERENCE. Does any have to really explain this to you?
That's all fine and dandy, but your premise as you clearly stated was that this is not about finding number 2, just number 1. If that is the case, Oregon shouldn't be in this because they lost to number 1 just like Bama.
You are just trying to find a way to give your team a shot at a national title since you think they are at a disadvantage with the current system.
You failed miserably and will be called out for it.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:11 pm to jcole4lsu
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so bama is eliminated by losing to lsu by 3 but oregon is not eliminated by losing to lsu by a shite load.
and West Va is not elimated by losing to 2 teams besides LSU.
What he is advocating is a complete travesty. Any system where 8-3 WVU could be NC, but 11-1 Alabama and Stanford can not is a complete joke.
Sorry the mighty ducks got hosed in 2001 by a not conference winner, but this system is by far the worst I've ever seen proposed.
If you want to reward conference winners (which I'm ok with) then do 16 and take all 11 conference winners and 5 wild cards. That dilutes the regular season and would take too long, but at least it would be more realistic than the abortion he is proposing.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:13 pm to Broski
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You are just trying to find a way to give your team a shot at a national title since you think they are at a disadvantage with the current system
his team is not at a disadvantage. you could argue for them in a 4 team playoff over Stanford since they killed SU and are effectively being punished for playing a tough OOC game.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:13 pm to H-Town Tiger
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What he is advocating is a complete travesty.
He also relegated all non-AQ conferences worthless. They might as well disband their programs.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:14 pm to Broski
+1
Couldn't have said it better
Couldn't have said it better
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Any system where 8-3 WVU could be NC, but 11-1 Alabama and Stanford can not is a complete joke.
pretty much.
the only solution i see is reserve half the playoff spots for conf winners.
thus in a 4 team playoff, 2 teams are guaranteed to be conference champs.
in an 8 team playoff, 4 teams are conf champs and so on.
its all moot though as i am totally confident a plus one system is all the playoff we will ever get or need
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
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his team is not at a disadvantage. you could argue for them in a 4 team playoff over Stanford since they killed SU and are effectively being punished for playing a tough OOC game.
I agree, Pac12 is sitting pretty now with the addition of a conference championship game. But he thinks the system needs to be changed because his team isn't in it.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:17 pm to Broski
its funny he wants to change the system but his team wouldn't win no matter what the system is this year because LSU would just be there to pummel oregon again. That is assuming chip kelly can finally win a game where teams have time to prepare for him. Look at chips losses they all come to start the season or end the season other than his choke job to usc this year.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
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his team is not at a disadvantage. you could argue for them in a 4 team playoff over Stanford since they killed SU and are effectively being punished for playing a tough OOC game.
perfect system might be a plus one with the following:
2 conf champs: LSU and Okie State
2 at larges, picked by selection committee not bcs ranking.
in that case its likely the selection committee would pick Bama and Oregon. Bama is obvious and oregon would get the nod over stanford based on head to head
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:18 pm to jcole4lsu
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the only solution i see is reserve half the playoff spots for conf winners.
thus in a 4 team playoff, 2 teams are guaranteed to be conference champs.
Just think how fricked it would have been this year if UGA had upset LSU
Someone out of LSU, Alabama, Stanford would have been left out
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:19 pm to Broski
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in a 4 team playoff, 2 teams are guaranteed to be conference champs.
in an 8 team playoff, 4 teams are conf champs and so on.
4 is all you really need and no need to require a certain # of conference champs. You can make it a consideration.
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But he thinks the system needs to be changed because his team isn't in it.
they would be if they didn't blow a home game to USC with worse clock management than LSU-Tenn 2010
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:20 pm to The Easter Bunny
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Someone out of LSU, Alabama, Stanford would have been left out
lsu and bama are light years ahead of stanford in terms of resume. it wouldnt be that big of a deal imo
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:23 pm to jcole4lsu
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there is no reason to limit the participants to conf champs.
hell you could make the argument that the SEC's top 5 teams could beat all of the current conf champs. LSU vs Okie State
BAMA vs Oregon
ARK vs Clemson
UGA vs Wisky
USC vs West Virginia
ill take the sec in every game except UGA/Wisky and that game would be a toss up
Sure there is a reason to limit this thing to only Conference champs. 1)even your own coach Les Miles said just as much in 2007 saying, "If a team is not able to win their own Conference they are defiantly not worthy to play in a BCSNCG." Also 2)No one elts in the Country wants to see same region vs same region, or Same Division vs Same Division. Do you really think the country would like to see the Dallas Cowboys vs the Washington Redskins? Do you really think the country would want to see NY Yankee's vs Boston Redsocks? Do you really think any people out of the St. of Oregon would want to see Oregon vs Oregon St. in CFB? Or how about UO and AU? A National Champion should be just that..."NATIONAL"!
Here is a curve ball to your little SEC matchups. What about BSU? We already know BSU can beat UGA this year because they already did! And they would easily beat Arky too. Same with USC(e)And who is to say they could not beat Bama this year or even your LSU? I am not saying they could, but no one knows if they could or could not; AS THEY HAVE NEVER PLAYED!
All I can say is that the whole rest of the Nation, non Deep South feels Okie lite was more worthy then Bama this year to be in a Natty and they did get screwed. Hell, 90% of LSU fans agree with this thought even. Same with your Coach Les Miles(back in 2007). And while I do not think OSU would beat your LSU this year, who knows really unless they played. They were easily more deserving then Bama this year (by schedule strength). And just you watch. This Natty rematch, or rather "Divisional Conference game rematch" as completely turned off the rest of the Nation non Deep South and it will go down as the worst TV rated BCS gamed: as no one outside the South cares to watch Snoozefest of the Century part 2, regionally isolated SEC vs SEC.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:26 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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Here is a curve ball to your little SEC matchups. What about BSU? We already know BSU can beat UGA this year because they already did! And they would easily beat Arky too. Same with USC(e)And who is to say they could not beat Bama this year or even your LSU? I am not saying they could, but no one knows if they could or could not; AS THEY HAVE NEVER PLAYED!
Wow, you really are this dumb. Boise State is irrelevant in this because, according to your scenario, they can't even compete for a title.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:29 pm to Broski
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Wow, you really are this dumb. Boise State is irrelevant in this because, according to your scenario, they can't even compete for a title.
i dont think he realizes they did not win their own shitty league
you cannot, with a straight face, argue that WVU and Wisky deserve to be in a 8 team tournament over Alabama or Stanford.
it is literally impossible and will cause and aneurysm.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:33 pm to jcole4lsu
He's either a 12 year old on meth or he belongs here
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:33 pm to jcole4lsu
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so bama is eliminated by losing to lsu by 3 but oregon is not eliminated by losing to lsu by a shite load. you are hopeless.
Buddy, you act like I desire this only to help my team. I do love my team but I am a fair CFB fan first! And this has nothing to do with my UO! By putting it your way you pretend like this is only for my teams good. UO losing to LSU at the start would be inconsequential to this BCS fix. If it makes you happy, and you became president of the BCS, and you wanted a rule put in that if a team already lost to another in the season(such as my team)then they get left out and the 2nd best team in a Conference goes...(such as Stanford) I would easily be for it still. Just as long as the whole system is all busted and rebuilt and fair to all!
BTW, even though Wisky lost 2 games already(though both were by hail marry passes at end of game) how do you personally know that Wisky could not beat LSU in a Natty this year? YOU DON'T! How do I know this? THEY HAVE NOT PLAYED! Same with TCU, same with Okie Lite, same with Clemson, ect... No one on the planet really knows unless they have actually met. If you ask me the Utah team that beat Bama a couple of years ago and went undefeated would easily have a great chance to of won the Natty that one year. Same with BSU a couple of years ago... But we shall never know for sure...they were never given a opportunity for the big dance.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:34 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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how do you personally know that Wisky could not beat LSU in a Natty this year? YOU DON'T! How do I know this? THEY HAVE NOT PLAYED!
under this ridiculous "logic" we should just hold a 128 team tourney
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:35 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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DucksflyinPAC
Let me ask you this.
Your whole thing has been only about finding the number 1 team, not number 2.
Well, hasn't this season already done that since LSU is the only undefeated team?
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