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re: How to fix the BCS system in a very simple way and solve all problems
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:35 pm to Broski
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:35 pm to Broski
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That's all fine and dandy, but your premise as you clearly stated was that this is not about finding number 2, just number 1.
If that is the case, Oregon shouldn't be in this because they lost to number 1 just like Bama. You are just trying to find a way to give your team a shot at a national title since you think they are at a disadvantage with the current system.
You failed miserably and will be called out for it.
That is not true at all. Read my post I made last, right before this one as it counters what you just said...
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Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
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)No one elts in the Country wants to see same region vs same region, or Same Division vs Same Division. Do you really think the country would like to see the Dallas Cowboys vs the Washington Redskins? Do you really think the country would want to see NY Yankee's vs Boston Redsocks? Do you really think any people out of the St. of Oregon would want to see Oregon vs Oregon St. in CFB? Or how about UO and AU? A National Champion should be just that..."NATIONAL"!
This is quite possibly one of the dumbest things I've read on here
No one wnats to see Dallas and Washington according to our "special" friend here, but NY Jets vs NY Giants, or Dallas vs Houston, San Diego vs San Franscisco, Miami or Jaxville vs Tampa is a okay because they are in difference "conferences"
There have been match ups in basketball between teams from the same conference many times, not one seemed to gripe. Sounds like duck brain is just letting butt hurt over this season cloud hsi judgement.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:37 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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That is not true at all. Read my post I made last, right before this one as it counters what you just said...
Your point for this farce of a system you are presenting is to find no. 1.
Well if that is the case, LSU should be awarded the title by default.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:47 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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1)even your own coach Les Miles said just as much in 2007 saying, "If a team is not able to win their own Conference they are defiantly not worthy to play in a BCSNCG
This is taking out of context to a new level.
While I don't recall him actually saying that, assuming he did, it was if reference to the CURRENT system that matches 2 teams and ONLY 2 teams. It was also in reference to Georgia, who had the same record as LSU, but did not win the same conference which LSU is in. Now, under those circumstances, when you are picking 1 team to play Ohio State, then yes, the 11-2 winner of the SEC should go over a 10-2 SEC team.
If you are putting 8 teams in a playoff, I'm seriously doubting Les Miles (or anyone with a brain) would advocate a system where a team like Alabama or Stanford would be left out, but West Va and So Miss could win the Championship.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:47 pm to Broski
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Let me ask you this. Your whole thing has been only about finding the number 1 team, not number 2. Well, hasn't this season already done that since LSU is the only undefeated team?
Great question: My answer is easily no. One can say this with Bama and Oregon and that would be true. However how do we know that the Big 12 just had tons more parity in it this year. You do know the Computers all ranked the Big 12 as the toughest Conference this year don't you? Why is because of how awesome they did OOC this year and the SEC did not do as well. Thus, even though Okie lite lost one game, (which being honest, their whole team just learned 1 hour before that their fellow team/coaches died on a plane and it crushed their spirits- which may of had a factor...)how do we all really know if Okie lite could beat LSU this year? We do not. We can guess, speculate, VOTE EVEN, but in fact, in truth, we do not. Same thing with Wisky, same with others. They never played. True LSU went undefeated, but mainly so only against itself. LSU never played a Big 12 team this year, or Big Ten team this year. LSU fans have NO CLUE how they would of done vs them.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:49 pm to Broski
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Well if that is the case, LSU should be awarded the title by default
exactly, we know LSU is better than Alabama because LSU beat them, but we don't know that LSU is better than Oregon or West Virgina because those teams are in different conferences and since those games don't count toward conference titles, then apparently the games don't count
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:50 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Do you really think any people out of the St. of Oregon would want to see Oregon vs Oregon St. in CFB? Or how about UO and AU?
I meant to type, UA(Bama) vs AU(Auburn). No one outside the that same state would want to see a Title game that so divisionally, or geographically isolated, is what I meant to convey.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:52 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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(which being honest, their whole team just learned 1 hour before that their fellow team/coaches died on a plane and it crushed their spirits- which may of had a factor...)
It definitely wasn't one hour. The plan crash happened early in the morning, the game was at 7pm.
You really just tried to embellish a tragic story to prove a point.
You are done.
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We do not. We can guess, speculate, VOTE EVEN, but in fact, in truth, we do not. Same thing with Wisky, same with others. They never played. True LSU went undefeated, but mainly so only against itself. LSU never played a Big 12 team this year, or Big Ten team this year. LSU fans have NO CLUE how they would of done vs them.
Yet you are going to render all non-AQ schools irrelevant because they don't play in the SEC, Big12, Pac12, Big10, ACC, or Big East?
How do we know Boise St. or Houston couldn't get it all working one day and knock off LSU?
Where is the cutoff?
Your system sucks. DEAL WIT IT.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:53 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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LSU never played a Big 12 team this year, or Big Ten team this year. LSU fans have NO CLUE how they would of done vs them.
So, if you have an 8 teams playoff, 4 teams are eliminated in round 1, LSU could only play one of those teams and not the other 3, hence we would never "know" if LSU could beat those teams, just like we don't "know" if the Cardinals could have beaten the Yankees since they didn't play.
If you want a playoff, fine, if you want to give everyone a shot, also fine, do 16 with all 11 conference winners and 5 at large. I'm not a huge fan of that, but it would give you a better shot at find a good champion, than the abortion you propose.
ETA: call it the Natty makes you sound like a 12 y/old meth using douche bag.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:53 pm to DucksflyinPAC
so if UGA had beaten LSU in the SECCG, you would be advocating Oregon (11-2) to be in the tournament over LSU (12-1) even though LSU beat the holy hell out of Oregon, right?
we all know thats what you are saying.
we all know thats what you are saying.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 4:58 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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No one outside the that same state would want to see a Title game that so divisionally, or geographically isolated, is what I meant to convey.
Would they want to see Clemson vs USCe? UGA vs Ga Tech? FSU v UF? Utah v BYU? USC v SDSU?
What all this boils down to is you don't like the current match up, you system could just as easily produce a regional matchup.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:01 pm to H-Town Tiger
Is it just me or do a lot of Oregon fans online just seem like teenage "urban" kids who hardly know shite about the program much less about college football in general?
I swear this kid's posting is like carbon copy of the crap I've seen from other Oregon fans on other sites.
I swear this kid's posting is like carbon copy of the crap I've seen from other Oregon fans on other sites.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:04 pm to TheCobra
What you're saying is you get the sense this kid didn't go to Oregon?!
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:14 pm to jcole4lsu
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so if UGA had beaten LSU in the SECCG, you would be advocating Oregon (11-2) to be in the tournament over LSU (12-1) even though LSU beat the holy hell out of Oregon, right? we all know thats what you are saying.
That would not be unfair at all. Every team would know the rules before you played a season. And it would be the fault of the SEC if the SEC people did not like it that UGA would of won. The SEC could always determine their champ another way, and drop their Conference Champ game altogether and just go with Round Robin. Basically, NCAA says unto Conferences: I know some of you like RR, I know some of you like Champ games. We don't care, you all have your personal preferences to determine your best team. Just send us your single best team. And we will face them off vs other Conferences single best teams...
The fact that UO and LSU would of played already is inconsequential.
btw, I am noticing the last 2 pages of every jumping on me about my team. Folks, this system has NOTHING TO DO WITH OREGON. Forget that I am a Duck. Pretend I am a BSU fan, or Wisky fan, or that I do not even have a favorite team. It is just about the system being broken and a idea that came to my to fix it. So far, in the last year that I thought of it, everyone who I have spoken to has loved it, (hundreds of people) except many SEC fans have not. Why is because they feel they desire more then one team in. lol SEC= feelings of entitlement.
If you must know, I long ago hated the BCS, from leaving more deserving teams out. But then I really detested the BCS a few years back when those awesome undefeated mid majors, Utah, BSU, TCU, never got a chance. And they were part of my major motive for this idea... Thus 2 slots open to them in case not just one, but 2 non AQ's had a super year and went undefeated.
If SEC people do not like others getting in, then just look at it like bye games for y'all. It really is not that hard to except it unless you have tons of bias.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:18 pm to The White Lobster
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What you're saying is you get the sense this kid didn't go to Oregon?!
I'm saying this kid is too young and dumb to even know where the hell Oregon is on a map. Hell he probably doesn't even know who Dan Fouts is.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Would they want to see Clemson vs USCe? UGA vs Ga Tech? FSU v UF? Utah v BYU? USC v SDSU?
What all this boils down to is you don't like the current match up, you system could just as easily produce a regional matchup.
Incorrect! I actually had this idea come to me one night during the 5 weeks of not playing anybody before MY TEAM played in such a BCSNCG. True I did feel UO and AU were the most deserving, however TCU went undefeated as well. How can we come up with a quick easy system that is fair to all, that is short as possibly, smallest # of teams in it, that would fair to all I thought. And I came up with this whole idea in my OP. It just all came to me one night, WHILE my team was already picked for the big dance. SO that counters your notion.
Why is it with SEC people that they always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS have to assume things?
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:19 pm to TheCobra
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I swear this kid's posting is like carbon copy of the crap I've seen from other Oregon fans on other sites.
This "kid" is 37 dumbass.
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Is it just me or do a lot of Oregon fans online just seem like teenage "urban" kids who hardly know shite about the program much less about college football in general?
And if you think you know more about CFB, then try me. I watch more CFB, and Nation Wide, and always have, then you could ever grasp retard.
This post was edited on 12/29/11 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:22 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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This "kid" is 37 dumbass.
Considering the shite you have said in this thread, you probably should have just gone with the notion you were 12. At least that would have explained your idiocy.
Now...not so much.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:22 pm to TheCobra
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Hell he probably doesn't even know who Dan Fouts is.
Posted on 12/29/11 at 5:23 pm to DucksflyinPAC
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This "kid" is 37 dumbass
You are 37 and don't have a ounce of non-retard in you brah.
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And if you think you know more about CFB, then try me. I watch more CFB, and Nation Wide, and always have, then you could ever grasp retard.
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