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re: How the frick you lose to Türkiye????
Posted on 6/25/26 at 11:31 pm to bbap
Posted on 6/25/26 at 11:31 pm to bbap
quote:for the time being…
Teams play starters and absolutely take pride in winning the SECCG.
Although I’d argue that the U.S. did care about winning, just not to the point where we played our starters all game.
Whereas nfl teams don’t give a frick at all if they lose 42-0 that final game.
However I do agree that your analogy of week 18 in the nfl is better to describe this game tonight.
This post was edited on 6/25/26 at 11:33 pm
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Posted on 6/25/26 at 11:33 pm to navy
Power for Peace
Posted on 6/25/26 at 11:40 pm to LivingstonLaw
End result stings the pride a bit, but could help refocus the team and relieve some pressure of perfection.
Ultimately, soccer is a weird game, better teams get beat all the time, look at the last few world cups and how defending champs performed.
As many have already said it's the B-team and ultimately a game that had no major impact. You had some guys out there that showed fight and passion to earn more minutes like berhalther. Had some guys playing lazy like weah. Then you have guys that proved why they are backups especially turner and robinson.
Ultimately, soccer is a weird game, better teams get beat all the time, look at the last few world cups and how defending champs performed.
As many have already said it's the B-team and ultimately a game that had no major impact. You had some guys out there that showed fight and passion to earn more minutes like berhalther. Had some guys playing lazy like weah. Then you have guys that proved why they are backups especially turner and robinson.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 11:43 pm to LivingstonLaw
This match was reminiscent of when the Saints lost to the Bucs in what was technically a meaningless game on a Jameis bomb to Chris Godwin as time expired in week 17 of 2017. However, our next game was the Minneapolis Miracle so I’m hoping the USMNT doesn’t suffer the same fate.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 11:47 pm to GeauxOn
In my opinion, the general the drop off in talent between starters and backups is usually most evident along the backline. Not too dissimilar from difference in second string secondary vs second string wide receivers in football. The attackers/receivers know what they want to do and generally know the play ahead of them and can somewhat act independently. Whereas backline/dbs are reading off the opposing offense and really the only way to get better is repetition in playing and working together with your teammates
Posted on 6/25/26 at 11:55 pm to GeauxOn
Valid points and maybe 100% spot on
Opponents get better
their 2's are probably significantly better
injuries, which are a part of sports, accelerate that
The African teams are surprising and beating good teams
We've beaten teams we were supposed to beat, unsurprisingly
I think the team is showing that its young talent is better than many thought but we're still behind half of Europe and a 1/4 Africa. Let's face it , we caught the slow ones
if we get to 16, it's a huge success
Japan bears Brasil
Opponents get better
their 2's are probably significantly better
injuries, which are a part of sports, accelerate that
The African teams are surprising and beating good teams
We've beaten teams we were supposed to beat, unsurprisingly
I think the team is showing that its young talent is better than many thought but we're still behind half of Europe and a 1/4 Africa. Let's face it , we caught the slow ones
if we get to 16, it's a huge success
Japan bears Brasil
Posted on 6/26/26 at 12:10 am to navy
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That’s what Americans do. We get pissed when we lose.
It’s the equivalent of being pissed at your favorite NFL team losing a preseason game, or the backups of your favorite college team getting outscored by 14 in the 4th quarter so you only win 49-14.
Sure, you can be pissed. You’re kinda a dumbass if you get pissed at your favorite NFL team losing a preseason game / the backups getting outscored in the 4th quarter of a blowout win, but it’s your right to be pissed.
This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 12:11 am
Posted on 6/26/26 at 12:11 am to LivingstonLaw
9 players that started game 1 didnt start game 3...
Posted on 6/26/26 at 12:14 am to theCAW
quote:
Although I’d argue that the U.S. did care about winning, just not to the point where we played our starters all game. Whereas nfl teams don’t give a frick at all if they lose 42-0 that final game. However I do agree that your analogy of week 18 in the nfl is better to describe this game tonight.
The better analogy might be the backups playing in the 4th quarter of a college football blowout… except in this case it was the entire match and not just the 4th quarter. The players on the field want to perform well, but it really doesn’t matter at all or give you an indication of the actual quality of the team (i.e., the starters).
Posted on 6/26/26 at 12:25 am to LivingstonLaw
Ecuador beat Germany today, and Germany started their regulars.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 12:31 am to RB10
quote:Germany regulars
and Germany started their regulars.
don't win outside of Europe and South America Posted on 6/26/26 at 1:03 am to LivingstonLaw
quote:
How the frick you lose to Türkiye??
You sit 9 nine starters.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 3:30 am to theCAW
Another analogy would be an SEC baseball team that has already secured a host site for their super regional.
So they pitch a freshman in the SEC tournament and he gets lit up for a few runs in the 5th inning and then you even the score. Only to lose when a backup reliever blows the save in the 9th inning. Sucks to lose, but the focus should be on the NCAA tourney, not the SEC tourney loss.
So the fans would have the perspective that had they won, it would be icing on the cake, but the primary starters are still rested for the NCAA tournament.
OU baseball doesn’t give a crap about losing to LSU in the SEC tournament now.
So they pitch a freshman in the SEC tournament and he gets lit up for a few runs in the 5th inning and then you even the score. Only to lose when a backup reliever blows the save in the 9th inning. Sucks to lose, but the focus should be on the NCAA tourney, not the SEC tourney loss.
So the fans would have the perspective that had they won, it would be icing on the cake, but the primary starters are still rested for the NCAA tournament.
OU baseball doesn’t give a crap about losing to LSU in the SEC tournament now.
This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 3:33 am
Posted on 6/26/26 at 4:14 am to LivingstonLaw
Use a lot of backups to start. 
I tried watching some of it. It looked like the US scored but got no goal. I did not get why it did not count.
I tried watching some of it. It looked like the US scored but got no goal. I did not get why it did not count.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 6:12 am to LivingstonLaw
In talking with my nephews who are really into soccer - before the WC started - they said making the Final 16 was probably going to be the ceiling for the U.S. team. They just aren't as good as the better team they told me.
I have no clue how good Turkey is and we didn't need to win this game so I guess you take that into some consideration, but I think we should all lower our expectations and be happy if they meet or exceed that bar.
I have no clue how good Turkey is and we didn't need to win this game so I guess you take that into some consideration, but I think we should all lower our expectations and be happy if they meet or exceed that bar.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 6:58 am to Hester Carries
And none of the starters were primarily defenders. Ream, Adams, Richards and Robinson stayed on the bench as did the biggest offensive threat in Balogun. Also the starting goalie.sat out.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:03 am to OWLFAN86
quote:
USMT apologist will be saying this until we lose to BozHerz
we beat 2 weak teams
That was our B team.
I mean those are just the facts.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:11 am to GeauxOn
quote:
the general the drop off in talent between starters and backups is usually most evident along the backline
True and that absolutely showed last night.
For as old as he is (in soccer years) this shows how valuable Ream is to this team.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:22 am to themunch
quote:
I tried watching some of it. It looked like the US scored but got no goal. I did not get why it did not count
The non goal you are talking about was a clear offsides thus no goal.
Last night was basically an exhibition game for the USA having clinched the top soot in the pool and moving on to play a 3rd place team.
Posted on 6/26/26 at 7:22 am to LivingstonLaw
Other than momentum, the game was pointless and all but two players were new starters. I also guess you fail to realize that before the WC started, Turkey was ranked #22 in the FIFA rankings and the US was #17 and currently they are US (15) and Turkey (27), which is not a huge difference. Turkey is not a trash team, they just didn't have a good tournament.
It's the WC, anything can happen, and this Cup has been a perfect example with all the upsets. Pretty sure it didn't affect Argentina (3) losing to Saudi Arabia (51) in game 1 back in 2022.
It's the WC, anything can happen, and this Cup has been a perfect example with all the upsets. Pretty sure it didn't affect Argentina (3) losing to Saudi Arabia (51) in game 1 back in 2022.
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