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How many of you truly see Tom Brady as a cheater?
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:40 am
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:40 am
I want to believe it's just people talking shite to get TB12 fans fired up. The Patriots haven't done one thing that any other organization hasn't done, yet they're crucified because they succeeded.
I'm honestly not even a Pats fan, but I do respect how great Brady is. Deflategate was the most bogus, media-mediated scandal in sports history. If you kept up with everything and read the complete court ruling, you'd see that it was basically made up and twisted to blame on Brady.
I'm honestly not even a Pats fan, but I do respect how great Brady is. Deflategate was the most bogus, media-mediated scandal in sports history. If you kept up with everything and read the complete court ruling, you'd see that it was basically made up and twisted to blame on Brady.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:44 am to MSUbulldogs03
Definitely not a cheater. The spy gate scandal was bad, but I still feel like there's something similar going on all over the NFL, whether it was Benson wiring opposing coach's box, Falcons piping in crowd noise, Broncos manipulating injury reports, etc..
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:48 am to Minden tiger
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whether it was Benson wiring opposing coach's box
link?
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:49 am to MSUbulldogs03
I don't care if he cheats or not, besides I feel it's more the patriots than Brady himself cheating. It's sports, not politics. Ultimately he is an entertainer and he has been a great QB and has kept me entertained.
Can't stand the Patriots...but can't deny Brady as a great QB.
Can't stand the Patriots...but can't deny Brady as a great QB.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:50 am to MSUbulldogs03
I think its an NFL generated "scandal" to keep a level of interest and intrigue for the women. If not for the Brady deal, no one would have mentioned much about the NFL over the summer. The "scandal" has kept them on the front page all off season.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:51 am to MSUbulldogs03
I hate Brady and the Patriots regardless of cheating.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:53 am to Minden tiger
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whether it was Benson wiring opposing coach's box,
You still believe this?
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:55 am to MSUbulldogs03
He's absolutely the GOAT. Looks like he can keep playing at this level for another 4-5 years as well.
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 8:56 am
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:56 am to SirWinston
He's the GOAT and they're the best team in football.
I say that with a little puke in my mouth though.
Karma gunna get them at some point.
I say that with a little puke in my mouth though.
Karma gunna get them at some point.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:56 am to MSUbulldogs03
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Deflategate was the most bogus, media-mediated scandal in sports history.
Tom Brady 100% had the equipment managers letting air out of the footballs so he could get a better grip.
That's cheating.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:59 am to MSUbulldogs03
I think he's a cheater...but I like him and I can appreciate his greatness.
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 9:03 am
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:01 am to Choupique19
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Tom Brady 100% had the equipment managers letting air out of the footballs so he could get a better grip.
That's cheating.
You can prove this?
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:06 am to MSUbulldogs03
I'm always surprised so many people give a shite. The Patriots are good, Brady is good, they both win championships without any cheating unquestionably.
While I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats get nailed just for the drama of it, it has zero impact on my enjoyment of the NFL
While I wouldn't mind seeing the Pats get nailed just for the drama of it, it has zero impact on my enjoyment of the NFL
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:07 am to saintsfan92612
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link?
Welcome to a Patriot's fan's entire summer. As long as you are accusing the Patriots, WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN EVIDENCE!
NFL got housed in court with a judge sarcastically referring to the evidence the NFL brought up? BERMAN WAS OBVIOUSLY PAID OFF.
Hack job article that has multiple proven holes, including the supposed Mike Martz bombshell disproved by an ESPN EMPLOYEE for an issue that was determined almost 9 years ago that for some reason happened right after the NFL got it's butt kicked in court? OMG SHADY SHADY SHADY.
Now the NFL, who the head representative didn't even attend the game, actually defended the Patriots. The Patriots also had issues, as said by Bill Belichick.
I can massively sympathize with Saints fans over Bountygate. It was an obvious overreach and understudied issue by Goodell, but some of you scream for blood every single time an allegation occurs.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:07 am to Choupique19
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Tom Brady 100% had the equipment managers letting air out of the footballs so he could get a better grip.
Every QB from at least the mid 1980's on did this. It's not a big deal. Troy Aikman, Brett Favre, and Aaron Rodgers have all been on record saying they discussed their preferred feels with the ball boys.
Brady obviously played with "regulation" balls in both the Super Bowl and last night's game and guess what - over 110 QB rating (at least - probably higher too lazy to google) and was MVP in both games. GOAT - case closed.
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 9:09 am
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:08 am to DrEdgeLSU
quote:Nope, but I think this. You can prove he didnt? Nope. The thread is if you THINK he is a cheater. And that poster does, I do too. Now I think he is still an all time great and it is overblown, but at the core of the question, yes he is a cheater
You can prove this?
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:08 am to Choupique19
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Tom Brady 100% had the equipment managers letting air out of the footballs so he could get a better grip.
The NFL couldn't even link him to it in court, which led to Nash in one of the funniest exchanges in the case having to admit that they had nothing to solidly tie it to Brady, and falling back on the more probable than not, to which the judge asked what the hell does that even mean.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:09 am to MSUbulldogs03
I think it's a stupid rule, but a rule nonetheless. Therefore, he cheated.
If it's such a big deal, why do they let the team control the balls? Seems like the refs should take care of that.
If it's such a big deal, why do they let the team control the balls? Seems like the refs should take care of that.
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:09 am to SirWinston
quote:This is once again incorrect. If you dont think he is a cheater fine. But dont spread misinformation. Not one of those other players have been accused of taking balls after inspection and illegally letting air out
Every QB from at least the mid 1980's on did this. It's not a big deal. Troy Aikman, Brett Favre, and Aaron Rodgers have all been on record saying they discussed their preferred feels with the ball boys
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