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re: How many of you truly see Tom Brady as a cheater?

Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68534 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:28 am to
Again, both are a luxury for any football team. I don't really care who is considered better, but if I had to pick for a team of mine, I'd go with Brady.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96304 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:30 am to
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Again, both are a luxury for any football team. I don't really care who is considered better, but if I had to pick for a team of mine, I'd go with Brady.
And I am completely fine with that. I only go against those who say it is clear one way or the other, or the misinformed people that say "look at the playoffs" Well, they have been damn near identical in the playoffs too in terms of playing the QB position. The reason I think Peyton is slightly better is because if you but him on the Patriots the last 14 years, their success wouldnt miss a beat. However, I do not think Brady would have done as well with those Colts teams. They are both top 5 all time so like you said you cant really go wrong with either
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 9:31 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68534 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:33 am to
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It's like saying to me "Do you want the Bugatti or the McLaren? The McLaren's engine tends to overheat when you go over 140. The Bugatti performs best from 120-200.


Hmm, I did not know that. I'm going to have to get my broker to research that before he schedules my test drives.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
167009 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:36 am to
I definitely think Tommy influenced the decisions to tamper with the balls to his liking. IT was a cheating move, don't really consider him a cheater so much though.

About the organization, my opinion is starting to change a bit... too much smoke for too long.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:37 am to
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How many of you truly see Tom Brady as a cheater?
pretty obvious he cheated on his wife to have a devil's threesome with Ben Affleck
Posted by lwest41
Member since Aug 2009
376 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:51 am to
He will always be a cheater in my mind. The headphone problems last night only confirm that.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 9:59 am to
tom brady as a player-no
new england as a team-absolutely
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22221 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:06 am to
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MSUbulldogs03


I like you. MSU fan solidifies it.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22221 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:09 am to
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I definitely think Tommy influenced the decisions to tamper with the balls to his liking. IT was a cheating move,


Did you play sports? Did you put tar on your baseball bat? Did you scuff up the ball just a smidge? That's altering original equipment.
Posted by cypressbrake3
Member since Oct 2014
3681 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:26 am to
Brady and Belichick are both scum.

The Patriot Super Bowls are badly tainted.
Posted by The7Sins
Truth or Consequences, New Mexico
Member since Nov 2012
1178 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:28 am to
He is a cheater. The Patriots are cheaters. These are undeniable facts that only die hard Patriot fans ignore.
Posted by MSUbulldogs03
Member since Apr 2013
2644 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:34 am to
Those texts weren't even on Brady's phone. His phone was never looked through and because they said they didn't need his phone he upgraded to an iPhone 6 and they claimed he "destroyed" his old phone. All misconstrued by the media.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
167009 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:36 am to
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Did you play sports? Did you put tar on your baseball bat? Did you scuff up the ball just a smidge? That's altering original equipment.


yes no no. ok. ?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96304 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:37 am to
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Those texts weren't even on Brady's phone. His phone was never looked through and because they said they didn't need his phone he upgraded to an iPhone 6 and they claimed he "destroyed" his old phone. All misconstrued by the media.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22221 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:44 am to
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yes no no. ok. ?


Dang. Trap wasn't set correctly. Back to the OB for trapping advice.
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 10:45 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:44 am to
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Now the NFL, who the head representative didn't even attend the game, actually defended the Patriots. The Patriots also had issues, as said by Bill Belichick.


Oh I see how this works. For months you say the NFL is the devil but now that they're supporting your stance everything's all good and it's case closed?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:47 am to
The pats won a game where the steelers missed a field goal, got stuufed on 4th and goal at the 1, didn't recover an easy fumble, turned the ball over, and we're missing two key offensive players


The patriots must've conspired to do those things. The best part is when the patriots cheated the steelers into leaving gronkowski 100% uncovered in the red zone


Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:49 am to
Goldrush25, what happened with that ban bet over if Brady would start Week 1?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96304 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:49 am to
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The pats won a game where the steelers missed a field goal, got stuufed on 4th and goal at the 1, didn't recover an easy fumble, turned the ball over, and we're missing two key offensive players The patriots must've conspired to do those things. The best part is when the patriots cheated the steelers into leaving gronkowski 100% uncovered in the red zone
Of all the bad arguments, this one is the worst
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:51 am to
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Goldrush25, what happened with that ban bet over if Brady would start Week 1?


No one accepted.
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