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How many elite, dying to win, anything for the team players still exist in pro sports?
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:16 am
You know the type of guy I’m talking about, the lay it all on the line willing to do anything to win a game type guy.
The best players used to be those guys, they did anything to beat you and were relentless to a point where it could be a problem. Michael Jordan, Kobe, Drew Brees, Larry Bird, lots of others.
Seems like now these guys are all friends, they’re so rich and they change teams so often, how many of them actually care about winning games? The really elite players all have grown up playing for 3-4 different clubs, probably transferred high schools at least once, college maybe more than once, and was told from a young age that their stats are what is most important in a game.
The way the system is set up now, it’s almost teaching the best athletes from a young age that winning and being a part of a team is not important, so then they get to the pros and all of a sudden they’re expected to love their team and their franchise?
I think it’s a real problem that is going to continue to degrade professional and college athletics
The best players used to be those guys, they did anything to beat you and were relentless to a point where it could be a problem. Michael Jordan, Kobe, Drew Brees, Larry Bird, lots of others.
Seems like now these guys are all friends, they’re so rich and they change teams so often, how many of them actually care about winning games? The really elite players all have grown up playing for 3-4 different clubs, probably transferred high schools at least once, college maybe more than once, and was told from a young age that their stats are what is most important in a game.
The way the system is set up now, it’s almost teaching the best athletes from a young age that winning and being a part of a team is not important, so then they get to the pros and all of a sudden they’re expected to love their team and their franchise?
I think it’s a real problem that is going to continue to degrade professional and college athletics
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:20 am to Tiger1242
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How many elite, dying to win, anything for the team players still exist in pro sports?
A metric frick ton
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:21 am to Tiger1242
Dude college QBs are making 8 figures. 
they’ve already won at life. Who is angry when you’re hooking up with 10s nightly and have millions on your bank account as a teenager.
Honestly the most “frick you” attitude I’ve seen sports over the last few years was the Argentina national team in the World Cup. They acted like a bunch of c unts but still almost won it again. They mocked other teams, went hard, even went dirty. They also didn’t apologize for acting like it.
I hated them but it was kind of refreshing to see.
they’ve already won at life. Who is angry when you’re hooking up with 10s nightly and have millions on your bank account as a teenager. Honestly the most “frick you” attitude I’ve seen sports over the last few years was the Argentina national team in the World Cup. They acted like a bunch of c unts but still almost won it again. They mocked other teams, went hard, even went dirty. They also didn’t apologize for acting like it.
I hated them but it was kind of refreshing to see.
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 10:23 am
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:24 am to St Augustine
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Dude college QBs are making 8 figures. they’ve already won at life. Who is angry when you’re hooking up with 10s nightly and have millions on your bank account as a teenager.
Yea it’s great for them but not great for those of us who like to watch them play
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:56 am to Tiger1242
quote:Jeez
Michael Jordan, Kobe, Drew Brees, Larry Bird
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:03 am to Tiger1242
This is so dumb. Josh Allen played almost an entire season with a UCL test to his throwing elbow
A lot of those old QBs with all their grit couldn’t throw it more than 5 yards with that
A lot of those old QBs with all their grit couldn’t throw it more than 5 yards with that
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:09 am to lsupride87
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A lot of those old QBs with all their grit couldn’t throw it more than 5 yards with that
I don’t think he’s asking about their physical capabilities to play through injury.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:10 am to Tiger1242
Dude, Baker Mayfield is that guy. There are several out there as well
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:10 am to High C
quote:Umm, playing through injury kinda shows your drying to win and doing anything for the team…
don’t think he’s asking about their physical capabilities to play through injury.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:23 am to Tiger1242
Their all pre Madonnas me me me
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:27 am to lsupride87
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Umm, playing through injury kinda shows your drying to win and doing anything for the team…
So, you think a coach is going to put a quarterback out there who can’t throw the ball five yards simply because he’s drying to win? No. The Bills wouldn’t have played Allen if that’s all he was physically capable of doing.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:31 am to Tiger1242
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Michael Jordan, Kobe, Drew Brees, Larry Bird,
one of these is not like the others
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:31 am to Tiger1242
It’s really weird you think this is a mentality problem with the athletes.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:34 am to High C
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So, you think a coach is going to put a quarterback out there who can’t throw the ball five yards simply because he’s drying to win? No. The Bills wouldn’t have played Allen if that’s all he was physically capable of doing.
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High C
You are a very dumb person
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
This is what you do when you can’t support an argument. The thread is about the desire to win and lay it on the line for your team. It’s not about the physical capability to do so.
He said that Allen demonstrated that desire by playing through a UCL tear. I agree, but he was obviously able to physically do it. He, not me, said that those older quarterbacks couldn’t throw a ball five yards with that injury. That removes the physical capability of playing the position, no matter how badly you want it for your team.
You are pitiful. Now, just call me some names and insult me.
He said that Allen demonstrated that desire by playing through a UCL tear. I agree, but he was obviously able to physically do it. He, not me, said that those older quarterbacks couldn’t throw a ball five yards with that injury. That removes the physical capability of playing the position, no matter how badly you want it for your team.
You are pitiful. Now, just call me some names and insult me.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:45 am to mattz1122
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Their all pre Madonnas me me me
Duck
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:47 am to High C
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This is what you do when you can’t support an argument. The thread is about the desire to win and lay it on the line for your team. It’s not about the physical capability to do so.
His point is there are guys that have hung it up for the year for less, pointing to Allen’s “want to”
This isn’t that fricking hard, yet you make it totally about something it is not… because you are a dumb person
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:11 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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This isn’t that fricking hard, yet you make it totally about something it is not… because you are a dumb person
Apparently it is that “fricking hard” for you because you are the one making it about something it’s not.
Go back and read through the posts. Do it slowly. Take all the time you need.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:37 pm to High C
Allen risked a career ending type injury by continuing to play, and played extremely well even though the pain tolerance would have been too much for almost anyone else
I think that kinda shows a tiny weee bit of “doing anything it takes”
And Allen isn’t alone. Every week every single team has multiple players risking it by playing through injuries.
This topic is dumb
I think that kinda shows a tiny weee bit of “doing anything it takes”
And Allen isn’t alone. Every week every single team has multiple players risking it by playing through injuries.
This topic is dumb
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:42 pm to Tiger1242
Drew Brees?
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