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re: Here are the true CFB national championship contenders based on FEI metrics

Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:34 pm to
I feel like it does a disservice to list the rankings without listing the composite ranking (Offensive, Defensive, and Special Teams).

Overall, FEI Ranking and composite score.

2016 Clemson- 2 - 0.320
2015 Alabama- 1 - 0.333
2014 Ohio State- 1 - 0.298
2013 Florida State- 1 - 0.319
2012 Alabama- 1 - 0.324
2011 Alabama- 3 - 0.306
2010 Auburn- 1 - 0.348
2009 Alabama- 1 - 0.342
2008 Florida- 1 - 0.356
2007 LSU- 1 - 0.282

In addition, below is the raw difference with the highest ranking FEI out of all the teams who did not win the national championship.

2016 Clemson -0.030
2015 Alabama +0.063
2014 Ohio State +0.007
2013 Florida State +0.008
2012 Alabama +0.005
2011 Alabama -0.012
2010 Auburn +0.046
2009 Alabama +0.052
2008 Florida +0.074
2007 LSU +0.020

If we combine this ratings, which gives us the efficiency rating + the efficiency rating above the next best team, then maybe we can see who was the most complete championship team for that season.

1. 2008 Florida +0.430
2. 2015 Alabama +0.396
3T. 2009 Alabama +0.394
3T. 2010 Auburn +0.394
5. 2012 Alabama +0.329
6. 2013 FSU +0.327
7. 2014 OSU +0.305
8. 2007 FSU +0.302
9. 2011 Alabama +0.294
10. 2016 Clemson +0.290

No matter how you look at it, the 2008 Florida team was not only had the highest FEI, it had the highest FEI above the next best team so combined it is the clear best team by all accounts.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 5:36 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:35 pm to
Losing to Ole Miss is the quickest way for a team to achieve their best and final form
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:37 pm to
2008 Ole Miss was easily the third best SEC team that year
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 5:38 pm
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12743 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:49 pm to
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2008 UF was pretty stout. Damn.


i think they're the best overall team the SEC has produced during their championship run.

Just as good on defense as any of the alabama teams, with a far better offense.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51546 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 5:52 pm to
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2008 had a legit 4 or 5 teams that were championship-worthy in most other years. Florida, Oklahoma, and Texas all had amazing teams with all-time great college QBs. USC had one of the nastiest defenses of the decade




My favorite season of the past decade, and it's not even close. CFB just seems so mediocre now.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:03 pm to
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Just as good on defense as any of the alabama teams


Ehh, they weren’t as good defensively as 2011 Alabama. 5 of 11 starters from that bunch were first round draft picks. 4 of those guys are still playing at high level
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84770 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:08 pm to
Being as talented and being as good during the season aren't necessarily the same thing.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35476 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:13 pm to
Any other year and all those teams win the Natty.

You had 4 teams with 1-loss and an undefeated Utah team that whipped Alabama.

Now that would have been an awesome CFB playoff of 4 teams.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15285 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:42 pm to
Those are some cool stats. That Tebow Florida team was really freaking good. Wow.

I think Washington is actually really good, but they would definitely need some help to get in. It would start with Wisky losing, as well as Oklahoma possibly losing another game.
Posted by chappaslappa
Member since Feb 2010
1254 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:02 pm to
Where did you get this? I'd like to see where 2013 Auburn was just to know. Itd be interesting to see 2004 as well.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8740 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:13 pm to
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I still think that '08 OU offense was the best I've seen in CFB. Just seemed like they could whatever they wanted. That was of course until they ran into UF.


No Demarco Murray hurt a lot
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7043 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:26 pm to
The 2008 title game is the most fun I've ever had watching a championship that didn't involve Alabama. Both teams were elite. Loaded rosters and loaded coaching staffs. I watched the game in a garage full of
Gator fans and when Major Wright took the head off of Manny Johnson early in that game I though the roof was gonna come off the house.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1713 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:26 pm to
Dang...2008 was a long time ago. There's 12 players on that OU roster still on NFL rosters. Some of dudes are getting old though.

Murray - Titans
L. Jones - Steelers
Bradford - Vikings
Donald Stephenson - Broncos
Trent Williams - Redskins
Gresham - Cards
James Hanna - Cowboys
David King - Titans
Stacy McGee - Redskins
Gerald McCoy - Bucs
Tress Way - Redskins
James Winchester - Chiefs

Pretty sure Florida had a ton also.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33937 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:33 pm to
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I'd like to see where 2013 Auburn was just to know.


2013 Auburn

Offensive FEI- 7
Defensive FEI- 10

As for 2004 Auburn, it only goes back to 2007. I'm not sure where they would have ranked.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
38377 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:41 pm to
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Being as talented and being as good during the season aren't necessarily the same thing.


They were better by almost every metric. They allowed over 100 ypg less than ‘08 Florida. Fact check before you come in here with that nonsense. Hell, the 2008 Alabama defense finished ahead of the 2008 Florida defense
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
71013 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

2008 UF was pretty stout. Damn.



Have you ever seen another team work harder?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44814 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:46 pm to
2011 Alabama had the best college defense I've ever seen
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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38377 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 7:47 pm to
They played like it was a sin to give up a yard.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84770 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 8:35 pm to
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They were better by almost every metric. They allowed over 100 ypg less than ‘08 Florida. Fact check before you come in here with that nonsense. Hell, the 2008 Alabama defense finished ahead of the 2008 Florida defense


, I said being as talented and being as good =/= equal. 2013 LSU offense is a pretty good example, for starters.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:26 am to
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I still think that '08 OU offense was the best I've seen in CFB. Just seemed like they could whatever they wanted. That was of course until Demarco Murray got injured


Fixed. Also USC would of smacked UF and Oklahoma
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 12:27 am
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