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Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:47 am to McCaigBro69
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Just offenses similar to Baylor with Briles and Oregon with Chip.
But those offenses weren't even similar to each other, numbnuts.
Baylor was a downfield passing offense. Oregon was run-heavy.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:51 am to MidnightVibe
Baylor was run-heavy too. They were one of the top rushing teams in the country with Oregon for a few years there.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:00 am to sms151t
quote:I watched the frick out of the VooDoo. They don't allow the spread and the field ain't wide enough for it anyway
All the Arena Bowls
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:12 am to McCaigBro69
Wouldn't OU in 2000 count?
Leach left OU before the season but he was brought in to specifically install the air raid
Gus at Auburn and Clemson on their run have a very similar offense. Why? Cause Chad Morris, the guy who helped turn Clemson around got the offense from Gus. Both guys consider themselves wing T offenses from the gun. They definitely should be considered "spreads". They like power run plays where they have the numbers advantage
The only offense that hasn't won anything of "note" would be a primary read option offense. It has dominated a conference. Won big time bowl games and produced Heisman winners and contenders But the only thing they haven't won would be a national title but oregon went twice so it's not like they couldn't have won
Leach left OU before the season but he was brought in to specifically install the air raid
Gus at Auburn and Clemson on their run have a very similar offense. Why? Cause Chad Morris, the guy who helped turn Clemson around got the offense from Gus. Both guys consider themselves wing T offenses from the gun. They definitely should be considered "spreads". They like power run plays where they have the numbers advantage
The only offense that hasn't won anything of "note" would be a primary read option offense. It has dominated a conference. Won big time bowl games and produced Heisman winners and contenders But the only thing they haven't won would be a national title but oregon went twice so it's not like they couldn't have won
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 1:30 am
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:32 am to McCaigBro69
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Almost all of the passing plays featured vertical routes meant to create space beneath them or to hit over the top if they were determined to stop the underneath stuff
Art Briles took the four verts concept from the air raid and exploited it.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:43 am to McCaigBro69
New England Patriots..imo they have been running the best version of the HUNH/Spread. They use it sporadically merged with a their version of the Earhardt perkins option route system.
The game tying TD drive against the Falcons should be allocated its own 24/7 projector at the Hall of Fame.
The game tying TD drive against the Falcons should be allocated its own 24/7 projector at the Hall of Fame.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:29 am to MidnightVibe
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But those offenses weren't even similar to each other, numbnuts. Baylor was a downfield passing offense. Oregon was run-heavy.
You can’t be serious.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 3:50 am to McCaigBro69
Pats have been running the spread for almost a decade. Eagles ran it last year. Odds are high the Super Bowl champ this year is running it. Bama running the spread right now
UF Auburn Clemson and countless conference champs
UF Auburn Clemson and countless conference champs
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 3:52 am
Posted on 12/16/18 at 4:20 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 12/16/18 at 4:26 am to McCaigBro69
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Has an air-raid/spread/hurry-up offense ever actually won anything of note?
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:59 am to sms151t
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Florida wasn’t running the spread neither was Auburn
Single Wing is not a spread.
they were running the spread option, which isn't exactly what OP was asking about but is common referred to as "the spread" also
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:01 am to McCaigBro69
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When I was with the Baylor program the offense had nothing under center and the goal was to get a play off as soon as possible following the previous one.
so this isn't about the spread. it's about the HUNH
not many examples. Clemson. maybe 2010 Auburn
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 7:03 am
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:05 am to LittleRockHog501
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The only offense that hasn't won anything of "note" would be a primary read option offense.
Texas, Florida (twice), Auburn, OSU, Clemson, and Bama (2017) all ran read option in their offenses
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 7:06 am
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:22 am to McCaigBro69
quote:im confused, do you actually think oregon under chip kelly and yall under briles had similar offenses?
You can’t be serious.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:27 am to WestCoastAg
no worries, he must have been really shitfaced when he started this thread so he has an excuse bro!
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:41 am to The Egg
McBro is all in on this since he said Cowherd stole his take on it.
I don't know football well enough to the understand technical definitions, but to me you have to first identify the type of "spread" when you talk about these things. To me, there are Rich Rod and Oregon uptempo run heavy attacks. Then, you have Wazzu air raids. Meyer and Gus with Cam seemed to have some type of power spread that can be balanced or run heavy. No idea what Baylor had. I thought they winged it around a lot, but then seemed to hit big runs, too.
It's funny because Michigan fans now want a more modern attack. Well, they had that with Rich Rod. I'm guessing they don't want to go full air raid. So, I guess maybe all they can really do is be more uptempo. I haven't paid quite enough attention to Shaw to see if he is doing things differently than Harbaugh at Stanford.
I don't know football well enough to the understand technical definitions, but to me you have to first identify the type of "spread" when you talk about these things. To me, there are Rich Rod and Oregon uptempo run heavy attacks. Then, you have Wazzu air raids. Meyer and Gus with Cam seemed to have some type of power spread that can be balanced or run heavy. No idea what Baylor had. I thought they winged it around a lot, but then seemed to hit big runs, too.
It's funny because Michigan fans now want a more modern attack. Well, they had that with Rich Rod. I'm guessing they don't want to go full air raid. So, I guess maybe all they can really do is be more uptempo. I haven't paid quite enough attention to Shaw to see if he is doing things differently than Harbaugh at Stanford.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 7:44 am
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:47 am to McCaigBro69
OP never saw the Bootys and Brock Berlin and them Evangel Eagles whoppin fools in the 90s
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:50 am to sms151t
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Florida wasn’t running the spread neither was Auburn
Single Wing is not a spread.
You are an idiot.
Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:15 am to McCaigBro69
Air-Raid/Spread/Hurry-Up covers about 80% of today’s offenses. Just about everyone has a multiple spread look and those same teams use tempo in their offenses, including Auburn when they were a variation of a spread wing-T.
Most of the Air Raid guys use it at places that have a difficult time recruiting the 4 and 5 stars and have struggled to win consistently (Texas Tech, Washington State, North Texas, Arkansas State, etc) Today’s air raid is beginning to adapt from what Mumme and Leach have been doing, so it’ll be interesting to see what Lincoln Riley ends up accomplishing at Oklahoma, or what the big name air raid guys will end up doing once they get big name OC jobs (like Graham Harrell or Sonny Cumbie)
Most of the Air Raid guys use it at places that have a difficult time recruiting the 4 and 5 stars and have struggled to win consistently (Texas Tech, Washington State, North Texas, Arkansas State, etc) Today’s air raid is beginning to adapt from what Mumme and Leach have been doing, so it’ll be interesting to see what Lincoln Riley ends up accomplishing at Oklahoma, or what the big name air raid guys will end up doing once they get big name OC jobs (like Graham Harrell or Sonny Cumbie)
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