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Posted on 11/15/12 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 2:18 pm to
how many times did you watch sabonis play before he cam to america?
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 2:21 pm to
There's a decent made for TV movie about The Goat starring a young Don Cheadle.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 2:26 pm to
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sabonis still wasnt that old when he came over to the US. He was good, but not a "wow" all time great

he just looked old as frick and honestly wasnt that mobile. people assume he was some old washed up bum



The same argument you have for Yao could be made for Sabonis- both fricked up their body playing for the national team. Sabonis just had more talent, came to the NBA after 10 years of basketball
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 2:33 pm to
except you never know how good he could have been vs NBA talent.


Yao actually played & produced vs NBA guys.


I understand he was a stud in Europe. Im sure those leagues were competitive, but basketball wasn't nearly as global then as it now.

I'd imagine there weren't many talented big men the size of Sabonis playing in those leagues.


These guys overseas are always "legends". You hear about them, but never really see them. You don't know any of the players they are playing against. Guys like Toni Kukoc & Vlade Divac who were "legends" and actually played most of their prime in the NBA. They were good players, even all star caliber at times, but hardly once in a generation players.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 2:37 pm to
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There's a decent made for TV movie about The Goat starring a young Don Cheadle.


I thought Cheadle was good in this and the playground scenes were well done. I liked one scene when Wilt had come over from Philly to play and The Goat, who was a quiet guy, swatted his stuff into the stands. "Welcome to Harlem Mfer"

Eric Lasalle envolved in this movie was the only negative.
This post was edited on 11/15/12 at 2:50 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 2:52 pm to
No love for Benji?
Posted by YMCA
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 3:41 pm to
Hank Gathers
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 3:46 pm to
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except you never know how good he could have been vs NBA talent.


Yao actually played & produced vs NBA guys.



so did Sabonis. At well past his prime.

Ming came into the NBA as a 22 year old. Sabonis came in as a 31 year old. Sabonis put up numbers comparable to Ming's at ages older than Ming is NOW.

Kukoc was 25 when he came over. Vlade was 21 when he came over. Bad comparisons to Arvidas.
This post was edited on 11/15/12 at 3:48 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:07 pm to
Connie Hawkins
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:16 pm to
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Connie Hawkins



REALLY?? He was a BEAST In the NBA. Come on man.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:18 pm to
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The rap on McGrady is that basketball came too easy to him. Thus him being out of shape for most of his prime.



I can buy that. he was ridiculous in orlando.
Posted by TheBiggestSpur
Member since Oct 2012
1049 posts
Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:19 pm to
No Brad Daugherty mentions? He was well on his way to be a HOFer before his back gave out. His injury took the Cavs from an above average team to a franchise that was the bottom of the barrel in professional sports.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:22 pm to
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No Brad Daugherty mentions?


There is a reason for this. A NICE player but was NEVER gonna be nothing special out of college.
Posted by TheBiggestSpur
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:29 pm to
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There is a reason for this. A NICE player but was NEVER gonna be nothing special out of college.

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5-time All-Stars are nothing special.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:04 pm to
Eric Montross
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:14 pm to
Hank Gathers. I would have loved to be able to see him in an uptempo NBA offense.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35720 posts
Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:16 pm to
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REALLY?? He was a BEAST In the NBA. Come on man.


And his greatest years were spent not playing in the NBA. He could have been legendary.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:24 pm to
Brad was great but that team also had Mark Price, Larry Nance, Ron Harper and more. We had 4 All-stars in that lineup.

Btw, at that time the Saints and the Clippers were considered sports worst franchises.
This post was edited on 11/15/12 at 5:25 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:38 pm to
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Earl was reportedly able to touch the top of the backboard to retrieve quarters and dollar bills


Just saying, I've also heard this attributed to David Thompson and LeBron.
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:42 pm to
Benji is the clear choice. Had NBA player and scout respect as a Junior in high school.
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