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re: Giving credit where credit is due, is LSU the greatest team of all time?

Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:05 am to
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:05 am to
If you don't think this LSU team is the greatest team of all time then you're a mother fricking retard.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15760 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:08 am to
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you're a mother fricking retard.


Go look in the mirror
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:12 am to
Depends on how you want to measure this.

I think It’s by far the most impressive and accomplished team of all time.

15-0
Beat 7 teams that were ranked in the top 10 when we played them.

5 of those teams will finish in the top 10.

When you think that out of the top 10 teams in the country we are one of them and beat five of the other nine. That’s insane.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18984 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:15 am to
Fantastic team its between 2019 LSU and 2013 FSU as best teams of the decade.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:18 am to
They are in the discussion
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:18 am to
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Behind 95 Nebraska and 01 Miami



Both of those teams would lose by 3 TDs at minimum
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16368 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:10 am to
I thought he said they were in the conversation with Miami & Nebraska, but there was no denying it was the greatest season
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:19 am to
Geez.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:45 am to
That’s always a difficult question, but it should certainly be in the discussion.

95 Nebraska
88 Notre Dame
01 Miami

Maybe 99 Florida State or 96 Florida.

USC and Oklahoma had some good teams in the early 70s, but it is hard to take teams from that era and earlier and compare them to teams that take the field today as everything is bigger, faster, stronger.

This LSU team is clearly top 5, and probably top 3. It would probably come down to Nebraska and this LSU team, and my ranking would be

Nebraska 95
Miami 01
LSU 19
Notre Dame 88
Florida State 99
Florida 96
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32681 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:46 am to
Greatest season no doubt. Best team I've seen is this one or 2011 Bama. I remember cfb back to the mid 90s but not well enough to compares teams from then. Nebraska was awesome for sure.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 6:48 am
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:58 am to
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I remember cfb back to the mid 90s but not well enough to compares teams from then. Nebraska was awesome for sure.


That Nebraska team was scary good. They scored over fifty points in 6 of 12 games that season, over sixty in two, over seventy in two. They shut out two opponents and held 5 to ten points or less. Finally they took out an undefeated, second ranked, and pretty good SEC champion Florida team 62-24. to win the title.

In that game, “Nebraska defeated Florida 62–24, marking the largest margin of victory and highest score in a national championship game in history. Included among several NCAA bowl records the Huskers set was a rushing total of 524 yards (out of an offensive output of 629 yards). I-back Lawrence Phillips carried 25 times for 165 yards and two touchdowns and caught a 16-yard touchdown. Quarterback Tommie Frazier finished the game with 199 yards on 16 carries. The game also included one of the most famous plays in college football history: a 75-yard touchdown run in the third quarter by Frazier in which he broke no fewer than seven tackles. Florida had won every one of their first 12 games by double digits and the Gator offense averaged over 44 points, 360 passing yards, and 534 yards of total offense per game. The Nebraska defense limited the Gators to 269 yards of offense and -28 rushing yards while registering a safety, seven quarterback sacks, and three interceptions, including one returned 42 yards for a touchdown by Michael Booker. The Huskers' 29 points in the second quarter set a Fiesta Bowl record.”
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:02 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65071 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:00 am to
That '95 Nebraska team also played and defeated four teams that finished in the AP Top 10 by an average score of 49-18.

They are still the standard as far as I'm concerned. 2019 LSU is definitely in the conversation, but they had too many close games.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33939 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:04 am to
Controversial opinion: I don’t think they were better than last year’s Clemson team. I’ve never seen a college team with a better defensive front than the one that Clemson team had last year. I’ll easily take this year’s LSU team over every other team since 2001 Miami though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422409 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:05 am to
yeah watching the game last night i was thankful we weren't playing LAST year's clemson team

we wouldn't have won that game with that DL and their scheme
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25515 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:10 am to
I think you can say LSU accomplished the most from a scheduling and results standpoint, both on the field and in awards.

I think you can say Nebraska 95 performed the best on the field.

And I think you can say Miami ‘01 was the most talented team ever.

Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:11 am to
no
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32681 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:16 am to
The family that lived next to me growing up was from Nebraska and they had some boys that I played football/basketball with and they'd let me come over to watch games. I thought I was a Nebraska fan until I was like 11. Scott Frost was a god to me. I remember Frazier but only vaguely.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422409 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:17 am to
yeah these GOAT comparisons are tough b/c so much changed

obviously 2019 LSU would skull frick NU like 60-10 or something just b/c CFB is so much more advanced today

you can't develop a comparison with that kind of recency bias and expect a real discussion

same with the direct schedule comparisons. we played 15 fricking games with a playoff so of course we're going to play more top-end teams

you kind of have to do it like replacement value within the vacuum of the year the team played. the biggest gap is the GOAT
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32681 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:18 am to
You really can't even compare 2019 LSU to 2011 Bama/LSU. I can't guarantee 2019 LSU would handle those defenses but those defenses never saw passing attacks like 2019 Clemson's much less 2019 LSU's. You have to compare teams to their contemporaries.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:20 am
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32681 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:22 am to
quote:

you kind of have to do it like replacement value within the vacuum of the year the team played. the biggest gap is the GOAT

Oddly enough the advanced metrics didn't love LSU this year like you would think. I think a lot of that is because they started out so far behind. The computer models started catching up but they undervalued LSU all year.
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