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re: Giving credit where credit is due, is LSU the greatest team of all time?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:05 am to cubsfan5150
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:05 am to cubsfan5150
If you don't think this LSU team is the greatest team of all time then you're a mother fricking retard.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:08 am to A Menace to Sobriety
quote:
you're a mother fricking retard.
Go look in the mirror
Posted on 1/14/20 at 1:12 am to cubsfan5150
Depends on how you want to measure this.
I think It’s by far the most impressive and accomplished team of all time.
15-0
Beat 7 teams that were ranked in the top 10 when we played them.
5 of those teams will finish in the top 10.
When you think that out of the top 10 teams in the country we are one of them and beat five of the other nine. That’s insane.
I think It’s by far the most impressive and accomplished team of all time.
15-0
Beat 7 teams that were ranked in the top 10 when we played them.
5 of those teams will finish in the top 10.
When you think that out of the top 10 teams in the country we are one of them and beat five of the other nine. That’s insane.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:15 am to cubsfan5150
Fantastic team its between 2019 LSU and 2013 FSU as best teams of the decade.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:18 am to cubsfan5150
They are in the discussion
Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:18 am to ProfFrink
quote:
Behind 95 Nebraska and 01 Miami
Both of those teams would lose by 3 TDs at minimum
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:10 am to roguetiger15
I thought he said they were in the conversation with Miami & Nebraska, but there was no denying it was the greatest season
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:45 am to cubsfan5150
That’s always a difficult question, but it should certainly be in the discussion.
95 Nebraska
88 Notre Dame
01 Miami
Maybe 99 Florida State or 96 Florida.
USC and Oklahoma had some good teams in the early 70s, but it is hard to take teams from that era and earlier and compare them to teams that take the field today as everything is bigger, faster, stronger.
This LSU team is clearly top 5, and probably top 3. It would probably come down to Nebraska and this LSU team, and my ranking would be
Nebraska 95
Miami 01
LSU 19
Notre Dame 88
Florida State 99
Florida 96
95 Nebraska
88 Notre Dame
01 Miami
Maybe 99 Florida State or 96 Florida.
USC and Oklahoma had some good teams in the early 70s, but it is hard to take teams from that era and earlier and compare them to teams that take the field today as everything is bigger, faster, stronger.
This LSU team is clearly top 5, and probably top 3. It would probably come down to Nebraska and this LSU team, and my ranking would be
Nebraska 95
Miami 01
LSU 19
Notre Dame 88
Florida State 99
Florida 96
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 6:52 am
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:46 am to cubsfan5150
Greatest season no doubt. Best team I've seen is this one or 2011 Bama. I remember cfb back to the mid 90s but not well enough to compares teams from then. Nebraska was awesome for sure.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 6:48 am
Posted on 1/14/20 at 6:58 am to beaverfever
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I remember cfb back to the mid 90s but not well enough to compares teams from then. Nebraska was awesome for sure.
That Nebraska team was scary good. They scored over fifty points in 6 of 12 games that season, over sixty in two, over seventy in two. They shut out two opponents and held 5 to ten points or less. Finally they took out an undefeated, second ranked, and pretty good SEC champion Florida team 62-24. to win the title.
In that game, “Nebraska defeated Florida 62–24, marking the largest margin of victory and highest score in a national championship game in history. Included among several NCAA bowl records the Huskers set was a rushing total of 524 yards (out of an offensive output of 629 yards). I-back Lawrence Phillips carried 25 times for 165 yards and two touchdowns and caught a 16-yard touchdown. Quarterback Tommie Frazier finished the game with 199 yards on 16 carries. The game also included one of the most famous plays in college football history: a 75-yard touchdown run in the third quarter by Frazier in which he broke no fewer than seven tackles. Florida had won every one of their first 12 games by double digits and the Gator offense averaged over 44 points, 360 passing yards, and 534 yards of total offense per game. The Nebraska defense limited the Gators to 269 yards of offense and -28 rushing yards while registering a safety, seven quarterback sacks, and three interceptions, including one returned 42 yards for a touchdown by Michael Booker. The Huskers' 29 points in the second quarter set a Fiesta Bowl record.”
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:02 am
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:00 am to Boatshoes
That '95 Nebraska team also played and defeated four teams that finished in the AP Top 10 by an average score of 49-18.
They are still the standard as far as I'm concerned. 2019 LSU is definitely in the conversation, but they had too many close games.
They are still the standard as far as I'm concerned. 2019 LSU is definitely in the conversation, but they had too many close games.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:04 am to cubsfan5150
Controversial opinion: I don’t think they were better than last year’s Clemson team. I’ve never seen a college team with a better defensive front than the one that Clemson team had last year. I’ll easily take this year’s LSU team over every other team since 2001 Miami though.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:05 am to Bench McElroy
yeah watching the game last night i was thankful we weren't playing LAST year's clemson team
we wouldn't have won that game with that DL and their scheme
we wouldn't have won that game with that DL and their scheme
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:10 am to SlowFlowPro
I think you can say LSU accomplished the most from a scheduling and results standpoint, both on the field and in awards.
I think you can say Nebraska 95 performed the best on the field.
And I think you can say Miami ‘01 was the most talented team ever.
I think you can say Nebraska 95 performed the best on the field.
And I think you can say Miami ‘01 was the most talented team ever.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:16 am to Boatshoes
The family that lived next to me growing up was from Nebraska and they had some boys that I played football/basketball with and they'd let me come over to watch games. I thought I was a Nebraska fan until I was like 11. Scott Frost was a god to me. I remember Frazier but only vaguely.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:17 am to TeddyPadillac
yeah these GOAT comparisons are tough b/c so much changed
obviously 2019 LSU would skull frick NU like 60-10 or something just b/c CFB is so much more advanced today
you can't develop a comparison with that kind of recency bias and expect a real discussion
same with the direct schedule comparisons. we played 15 fricking games with a playoff so of course we're going to play more top-end teams
you kind of have to do it like replacement value within the vacuum of the year the team played. the biggest gap is the GOAT
obviously 2019 LSU would skull frick NU like 60-10 or something just b/c CFB is so much more advanced today
you can't develop a comparison with that kind of recency bias and expect a real discussion
same with the direct schedule comparisons. we played 15 fricking games with a playoff so of course we're going to play more top-end teams
you kind of have to do it like replacement value within the vacuum of the year the team played. the biggest gap is the GOAT
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:18 am to SlowFlowPro
You really can't even compare 2019 LSU to 2011 Bama/LSU. I can't guarantee 2019 LSU would handle those defenses but those defenses never saw passing attacks like 2019 Clemson's much less 2019 LSU's. You have to compare teams to their contemporaries.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:20 am
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:22 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Oddly enough the advanced metrics didn't love LSU this year like you would think. I think a lot of that is because they started out so far behind. The computer models started catching up but they undervalued LSU all year.
you kind of have to do it like replacement value within the vacuum of the year the team played. the biggest gap is the GOAT
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