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re: Giving credit where credit is due, is LSU the greatest team of all time?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:23 am to beaverfever
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:23 am to beaverfever
yeah it's like what i said during the 2011 season, when i picked 2006 LSU over 2011 LSU
2011 LSU was way too one dimensional to run with this team
Bama was better but i don't know if they were good enough
but yeah these days, 10 years is too much time to compare teams. CFB just moves too fast. that 2008 UF team is one of the most talented teams ever and (even with 1 loss) a candidate for GOAT of its era and i think this LSU team would destroy them. even worse for 2009 Bama
they were running a dinosaur zone read scheme that would be fully contained these days
2011 LSU was way too one dimensional to run with this team
Bama was better but i don't know if they were good enough
but yeah these days, 10 years is too much time to compare teams. CFB just moves too fast. that 2008 UF team is one of the most talented teams ever and (even with 1 loss) a candidate for GOAT of its era and i think this LSU team would destroy them. even worse for 2009 Bama
they were running a dinosaur zone read scheme that would be fully contained these days
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:24 am to beaverfever
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Oddly enough the advanced metrics didn't love LSU this year like you would think. I think a lot of that is because they started out so far behind. The computer models started catching up but they undervalued LSU all year.
yeah i think our tinkering on D (with some injuries added in) in the middle of the year is going to always affect the way our stats came out
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:48 am to beaverfever
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You really can't even compare 2019 LSU to 2011 Bama/LSU. I can't guarantee 2019 LSU would handle those defenses but those defenses never saw passing attacks like 2019 Clemson's much less 2019 LSU's. You have to compare teams to their contemporaries.
There’s also rules like targeting put in place since hen that have really hampered the aggressive of defenses. It’s not a coincidence that offense numbers have exploded since targeting became a rule.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:50 am to cubsfan5150
One of, definitely. Not even close to the domination of ‘95 Nebraska.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:50 am to cubsfan5150
If LSU were a blueblood, they would have been crowned the GOAT team before this game. That would have been part of the hype...
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:51 am to Bench McElroy
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It’s not a coincidence that offense numbers have exploded since targeting became a rule.
show me the data on this. targeting isn't that new
it certainly didn't exist in 2007 when Hawaii was setting records that took 15 games and a GOAT offense to break
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:53 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:LSU has 3 titles in the last two decades and has countless other 10+ win seasons. I know they weren't as good in the 80s and 90s but I was under the impression they had their fair share of historical success. Either way, LSU is a blue blood cfb program. Georgia is a blue blood and they haven't won shite.
If LSU were a blueblood, they would have been crowned the GOAT team before this game. That would have been part of the hype...
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:54 am
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:04 am to Brisketeer
This LSU team would beat that Nebraska team by 3 scores. 95 Nebraska has nowhere near the depth at corner to handle this offense and LSUs massive front would be able to handle the Nebraska run game enough. Nebraska’s Oline averaged 289lbs, LSUs 2 deep rotation at Dline averages 317.7lbs. It doesn’t matter how good they were, LSU would wear them out up front.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 8:05 am
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:11 am to ProfFrink
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Behind 95 Nebraska and 01 Miami
Yet this LSU team would beat those teams.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:16 am to TH03
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Yet this LSU team would beat those teams.
Of course they would, as those guys on both teams are now all in their late-30s/mid-40s. No one on LSU's football team was even alive in 1995.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:16 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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they would have been crowned the GOAT team before this game
No. In order to be crowned GOAT you have to dominate every team you gave and LSU didn’t do that. Had close games against Texas, Bama and Auburn and gave up a ton of yards to a bad Vandy team and Ole Miss.
95 Nebraska dominated every team and didn’t have a “bad” game.
There is a reason 95 Nebraska is known as the GOAT. They were never tested and never had a game they were even close to losing.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:17 am to ProfFrink
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gave up a ton of yards to a bad Vandy team and Ole Miss.
And scored 60 in both.
15-0 Natty champs. STTDB
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:18 am to ProfFrink
Lmao can you imagine if this LSU team played in the Little 8? Wedve averaged 70ppg.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:24 am to RollTide1987
quote:Von Rosenberg was alive
No one on LSU's football team was even alive in 1995.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:33 am to cubsfan5150
I probably need more time to get context, but I'm tempted to put them at #4 for the teams I've had a chance to watch.
My top three (Nebraska, Miami and 04 USC) all annihilated the #2 team in the NCG, with the caveat that I don't think Nebraska faced the true #2. That's the reason I have a hard time putting LSU over those 3.
Beyond that, LSU is a really great team with a really strong year across the board. The greatest team ever is really subjective and nitpicky. I don't doubt they're in that conversation and it's just a matter of what you prefer.
My top three (Nebraska, Miami and 04 USC) all annihilated the #2 team in the NCG, with the caveat that I don't think Nebraska faced the true #2. That's the reason I have a hard time putting LSU over those 3.
Beyond that, LSU is a really great team with a really strong year across the board. The greatest team ever is really subjective and nitpicky. I don't doubt they're in that conversation and it's just a matter of what you prefer.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:34 am to Epic Cajun
Nebraska beat
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LSU beat
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Watching people trip over their dropping slack jaws and fat tongues to try and ignore the reality this is the best team ever is hilarious
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LSU beat
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Watching people trip over their dropping slack jaws and fat tongues to try and ignore the reality this is the best team ever is hilarious
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:35 am to Rep520
quote:What do you call last night?
My top three (Nebraska, Miami and 04 USC) all annihilated the #2 team in the NCG,
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:47 am to lsupride87
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What do you call last night?
It was a 3 point game in the 3rd quarter.
Nebraska was up 35-10 at half and 49-18 at the end of 3 over the #2 team in that game. The 95 championship wasn’t even competitive. LSU was clearly the better team but they didn’t demolish Clemson. Nowhere near close to what Nebraska did to Florida that year
Please go watch that 95 game. It’s on YouTube. What Nebraska did to the #2 team that year was unreal.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 8:49 am
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:50 am to ProfFrink
quote:And LSU was up 28-17 at half
Nebraska was up 35-10
Keep in mind, lsu was playing the team with 29 straight wins and 2/3 national titles, not an upstart program......
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:50 am to cubsfan5150
Don’t know about greatest team, but this may very well have been the greatest season.
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