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re: Formula 1 2021 Season Thread
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:13 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:13 pm to fightin tigers
Massi: Not the hero we deserved, but the hero we needed 
I’ve said numerous times in this thread, Hamilton got screwed, but its no like he hasn’t gotten the benefit of terrible decisions before.
I’m glad I don’t have to root for the lesser of two evils now. Hoping Maclaren or Ferrari has a standout year next.
I’ve said numerous times in this thread, Hamilton got screwed, but its no like he hasn’t gotten the benefit of terrible decisions before.
I’m glad I don’t have to root for the lesser of two evils now. Hoping Maclaren or Ferrari has a standout year next.
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Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:13 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Guilty
You were so convinced that the FIA was on the take for Mercedes lol
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:15 pm to HubbaBubba
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quote:
You were so convinced that the FIA was on the take for Mercedes lol
Guilty
Same here.
I think if this all happened mid-season, it's a different outcome.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:16 pm to busbeepbeep
quote:
last lap view from Danny Ric's POV
So watching that, was Max not breaking the rules by weaving like that on the long straight? He changed directions five times to defend. In the grand scheme of the whole clusterfrick of a race it doesn't mean much, but it's still a question I have.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:16 pm to fightin tigers
quote:They could have if Masi had not first told them they couldn’t. That’s when Horner got on the horn and Masi said “give me a moment.” He corrected his mistake but too late to fully implement. At that point he used his discretion to fix as much as he could.
No way the cars all make it far enough to bring in the safety car if everyone has to unlap.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:17 pm to hikingfan
Max is Senna or Schumacher. Lewis is more Haikkinen.
Max will take that challenge and crash both out. He has nothing to lose. That was Senna and Schumacher. We both wreck or I make it.
Lewis is more of the style racer that backs out and fights again later.
Lewis' playing of lap one really capitalizes on the entire season of F1 not penalizing that move. He knew that he gets forced off and they won't investigate. Happened over and over.
Max will take that challenge and crash both out. He has nothing to lose. That was Senna and Schumacher. We both wreck or I make it.
Lewis is more of the style racer that backs out and fights again later.
Lewis' playing of lap one really capitalizes on the entire season of F1 not penalizing that move. He knew that he gets forced off and they won't investigate. Happened over and over.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:17 pm to Lsut81
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I’m glad I don’t have to root for the lesser of two evils now. Hoping Maclaren or Ferrari has a standout year next.
Yea I'm hoping McLaren makes some good gains with the new regs.
I'm not a Ferrari fan at all, but it just doesn't feel right when they are irrelevant. Would be happy to see them competing for wins again.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:18 pm to Ice Cold
That’s right and you can’t reverse the decision either because RB did everything right and won.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:19 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Max not breaking the rules by weaving like that on the long straight? He changed directions five times to defend
Thought the same thing with him trying to keep Lewis out of the slip… But that is the stupidest fricking rule that they can’t block or weave.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:19 pm to Ice Cold
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He corrected his mistake but too late to fully implement. At that point he used his discretion to fix as much as he could.
Right. He half assed it. Had there been another couple of laps the safety car would have stayed out. He ended it early for the green flag ending. It was abnormal.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:20 pm to Lsut81
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But that is the stupidest fricking rule that they can’t block or weave.
Another rule that has been abused. Alonso took it as a personal challenge this year and proved Masi wrong.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:20 pm to BottomlandBrew
quote:
So watching that, was Max not breaking the rules by weaving like that on the long straight? He changed directions five times to defend. In the grand scheme of the whole clusterfrick of a race it doesn't mean much, but it's still a question I have.
You can weave down the straight. You just have to stick to your line when you get into the braking zone.
Max wasn't weaving to defend a pass per se, he was weaving to prevent lewis from getting the slipstream.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:21 pm to fightin tigers
Merc took a gamble for no reason and paid the price of Masi partially applying the rules instead of fully applying them which would have cost them the race regardless. Not allowing the cars through would be just as big if not a bigger controversy given the precedent.
And don’t pretend like 3rd was ever going to pressure max or ham.
And don’t pretend like 3rd was ever going to pressure max or ham.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:21 pm to Ice Cold
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At that point he used his discretion to fix as much as he could.
Seeing as the rule is designed to get them out the way, that is all that matters.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:24 pm to nola tiger lsu
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Seeing as the rule is designed to get them out the way, that is all that matters.
Get who out of the way of who...
Seriously, this is the crux of the discussion.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:24 pm to udtiger
quote:
Same here.
I think if this all happened mid-season, it's a different outcome.
quote:I don't think I'm supposed to be chatting on here with such a well known political "n'er do well" such as you.
udtiger
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:24 pm to ell_13
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And don’t pretend like 3rd was ever going to pressure max or ham.
Masi made sure of that.
quote:
Merc took a gamble for no reason and paid the price of Masi partially applying the rules instead of fully applying them which would have cost them the race regardless
Nah, fully applying puts the safety car past the line and it has to make another lap (which by the rules it should have done anyway)
This post was edited on 12/12/21 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:25 pm to BottomlandBrew
quote:I think because it was on the straight, not in the braking zone it was ok, according to some stuff I read on Reddit. Once you get to the braking zone, you need to pick a line.
So watching that, was Max not breaking the rules by weaving like that on the long straight? He changed directions five times to defend.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:25 pm to fightin tigers
Non starter. No one was going to shoot for 2nd in that scenario. Period. If anything, he protected Lewis from 3rd.
Posted on 12/12/21 at 8:26 pm to HubbaBubba
No matter what… Can we call out Mexico’s Minister of Defense? Without him, no way Max is in the position at the end. All of his lack of consistency this year and he finally does his job in the right moment.
Checo deserves a nice fat check from Max along with Latifi
Checo deserves a nice fat check from Max along with Latifi
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