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re: Formula 1 2021 Season Thread
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:45 am to extremetigerfanatic
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:45 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Max is an a-hole.
Ham is a bitch.
Christian and Max have a gripe. That was dangerous and very easily could have been serious injury causing.
You jackasses keep saying max and Lewis are alike but it’s been a damn long time since max has punted someone. Lewis does that shite all the time.
I agree with all this.
But like I said, racing is dangerous and winning the championship doesn't usually win you any friends or come from watching out for others safety.
Is what it is.
It's why most people don't like Lewis but doesn't change the fact he's got 7 titles and possibly on his way to 8.
End of the day, Max is safe, he's still in the lead and he just bought a 6M dollar yaght. He'll be fine.
(I very much dislike Lewis Hamilton fwiw)
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 8:48 am
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:55 am to STLhog
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Maybe back off of each other a little? It's okay to have differing opinions on the move and outcome.
But, but, but my e-peen!
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:44 am to VABuckeye
Lewis is a bitch, but a talented bitch. It’s clear he feels threatened, but all of the GOATs struggle with not being the best anymore.Also, he basically ruined Albon’s career at RB with two bitch moves.
Granted, I don’t have nearly the amount of knowledge on all of this as some in this thread do. But where there is smoke there is usually fire and just in my short time watching F1 it seems that Hamilton is always getting away with things like this and is never called out for it. He’s untouchable.
Granted, I don’t have nearly the amount of knowledge on all of this as some in this thread do. But where there is smoke there is usually fire and just in my short time watching F1 it seems that Hamilton is always getting away with things like this and is never called out for it. He’s untouchable.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:51 am
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:17 am to UnluckyTiger
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it seems that Hamilton is always getting away with things like this and is never called out for it.
I'm waiting patiently for Nico Rosberg to get a jab or two in on Lewis.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:38 am to NewIberiaHaircut
I think lewis was at fault but also it was on the line for being just a raving incident.
Tbh every great driver pulls that shite from time to time so that's just F1.
Someone on r/formula1 posted a max compilation of him bullying/punting people for like 6 minutes. Lewis's move yesterday is like many of max's moves in the past.
Max, like every other great driver, is aggro as frick on the track. I don't really care for the whining and complaining when an aggro driver loses out to another aggro driver. It was great wheel to wheel racing for 3 corners and then two championship level drivers could have both backed out. Neither did and one got punted.
Also the people saying ham purposefully crashed into are retarded. Probably a greater than 50% chance that HAM also has to retire if he gets in a real tangle. Pure luck max's car didn't take ham's front left suspension along with him into the wall.
Tbh every great driver pulls that shite from time to time so that's just F1.
Someone on r/formula1 posted a max compilation of him bullying/punting people for like 6 minutes. Lewis's move yesterday is like many of max's moves in the past.
Max, like every other great driver, is aggro as frick on the track. I don't really care for the whining and complaining when an aggro driver loses out to another aggro driver. It was great wheel to wheel racing for 3 corners and then two championship level drivers could have both backed out. Neither did and one got punted.
Also the people saying ham purposefully crashed into are retarded. Probably a greater than 50% chance that HAM also has to retire if he gets in a real tangle. Pure luck max's car didn't take ham's front left suspension along with him into the wall.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:44 am to VABuckeye
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Maybe back off of each other a little? It's okay to have differing opinions on the move and outcome.
Look I don’t want to get too far off track on this but what Lewis did was very dangerous.
You essentially had a driver mentally decide, it’s okay for me to do something very dangerous because the worst that will happen is I’ll get a penalty that I can overcome. It actually benefited him twice because when he did the same thing to leclerc, charles just gave up because he didn’t want to lose second.
Is that racing? Sure. But I don’t want to hear all the complaining and explaining from Merc. It’s ridiculous. He should acknowledge what he did. Instead they are pretending he was in the right.
He’s saying shite like “I won’t be bullied into be less aggressive?”
Gtfo with that crap man. You almost hurt someone bad.
He gets protected because he’s Lewis.
It’s like listening to LeBron say he doesn’t get calls. It’s retarded.
This is why people call him a bitch. It went your way and when everyone isn’t fawning over you you are complaining.
F Lewis. It’s a baby back bitch move. At least own it
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 10:49 am
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:46 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Max, like every other great driver, is aggro as frick on the track. I don't really care for the whining and complaining when an aggro driver loses out to another aggro driver.
Well said.
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Also the people saying ham purposefully crashed into are retarded. Probably a greater than 50% chance that HAM also has to retire if he gets in a real tangle. Pure luck max's car didn't take ham's front left suspension along with him into the wall.
Also, this.
You can blow the whole car up by barely touching it at those speeds. Like has been said before, Hamilton didn’t bow out this time like he did the previous few. It paid off for him, and he’s 100% in RBR’s heads going forward. Big gamble. Tremendous payoff. Knowing that Max’s main injury is a hit to his pride, I’m all for it.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:51 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Also the people saying ham purposefully crashed into are retarded. Probably a greater than 50% chance that HAM also has to retire if he gets in a real tangle. Pure luck max's car didn't take ham's front left suspension along with him into the wall.
I mean he was penalized essentially because they determined he drove into max.
He’s the greatest ever at handling a car… til he’s not and it’s convenient to say whoopsedaisy, I didn’t mean that?
He should own it.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:59 am to extremetigerfanatic
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I mean he was penalized essentially because they determined he drove into max.
I guess but a double dnf there doesn't really help lewis or the team so the line of thought that Hamilton was intending to cause a verstappen dnf while putting his own race and championship hopes at extreme risk doesn't make sense to me.
This isn't NASCAR where you can bump somone off and be fairly confident in not sustaining critical damage to your own car.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:31 am to extremetigerfanatic
I think what’s being said is that while Hamilton didn’t intend to send Max into a wall at 51Gs, he did intend to drive as aggressively as possible, which is not against the rules. When you have two great drivers battling that closely, shite tends to happen. It is what it is. It worked out for Mercedes this time.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:00 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Also the people saying ham purposefully crashed into are retarded. Probably a greater than 50% chance that HAM also has to retire if he gets in a real tangle. Pure luck max's car didn't take ham's front left suspension along with him into the wall.
Had it not been for the red flag, Hamilton would have DNF'd due to damage, or at the very least been in the back of the pack. There's no way he wrecked Max on purpose. Like you said, just two champs driving like it mattered. Hamilton took it a little too far, but that's what they do. They both bluffed and the other person called the bluff.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:20 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Good post. Agree with all of this.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:23 pm to BottomlandBrew
Yeah, no way he punted Max on purpose. He was definitely over-aggressive and was at fault, but that tangle could have gone very badly for Hamilton too. Everything about it just happened to bounce his way this time, and it was a huge swing in the championship standings.
So far this season the lucky bounces for Verstappen and Hamilton seem to be mostly washing out. They both got bit by strategy, in Spain and France respectively, then Max wrecked in Baku but Hamilton's screw up dropped out him of the points. No net change.
You could say Lewis got lucky at the end in Bahrain, but Max got lucky with Leclerc's retirement at the Monaco Grand Parade.
The next time they go wheel-to-wheel it could go the other way.
So far this season the lucky bounces for Verstappen and Hamilton seem to be mostly washing out. They both got bit by strategy, in Spain and France respectively, then Max wrecked in Baku but Hamilton's screw up dropped out him of the points. No net change.
You could say Lewis got lucky at the end in Bahrain, but Max got lucky with Leclerc's retirement at the Monaco Grand Parade.
The next time they go wheel-to-wheel it could go the other way.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:23 pm to extremetigerfanatic
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He’s the greatest ever at handling a car… til he’s not and it’s convenient to say whoopsedaisy, I didn’t mean that?
He should own it.
If Max had backed off, it would be a non issue and great pass/flex.
Lewis tested him, taking a huge risk and won it.
Dangerous and stupid? Yea for sure. But it paid off for him, regardless.
Can be mad as a mad dog but Kind of end of story.
Lewis isn't ever going to own anything the way you're wanting him to, why bitch incessently about it?
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:24 pm to STLhog
Here's a link to the hilarious radio exchange between Michael Massi (FIA race director) and Toto Wolff regarding the email that Toto sent to Michael with diagrams of the Hamilton/Max crash.
"...uh, Toto, we're in the middle of a freaking race I can't open Gmail"
"...uh, Toto, we're in the middle of a freaking race I can't open Gmail"
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:25 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
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then Max wrecked in Baku
Well his tires imploded to be fair.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:59 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Had it not been for the red flag, Hamilton would have DNF'd due to damage, or at the very least been in the back of the pack. There's no way he wrecked Max on purpose. Like you said, just two champs driving like it mattered. Hamilton took it a little too far, but that's what they do. They both bluffed and the other person called the bluff.
No room for this type of logic here
Lewis bad, Max good
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:03 pm to STLhog
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Well his tires imploded to be fair.
I know. Just saying that the incident was a gift for HAM and but he ended up bungling it, so the race was a wash at the top of the drivers championship.Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:06 pm to Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Also surprised by RBR's decision to send Perez after the fastest lap rather than the constructor point(s).
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:09 pm to fightin tigers
The DSR trains are problematic. They just create a procession of cars around the track.
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