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re: Final football ranking top 5

Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:50 pm to
If Michigan wins, wash will be 3 and UGA will be 2. If Wash wins Mich will be 2 and UGA 3.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23164 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:54 pm to
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas 12-2
4. Alabama 12-2
5. Georgia 13-1
6. Oregon 12-2
7. Florida State 13-1
8. Missouri 11-2
9. Ole Miss 11-2
10. Ohio State 11-2
11. LSU 10-3
12. Arizona 10-3
13. Penn State 10-3
14. Notre Dame 10-3
15. Tennessee 9-4
16. Oklahoma 10-3
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5338 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51913 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Perhaps since Texas beat Bama, who beat Georgia?


For fricks sake….the transitive property doesn’t work in football! Period. Literally every year it gets empirically proven but idiots still try to incorporate it in their logic.

When called out on it, typically proponents double down on the cognitive dissonance and claim that a playoff is more “pure” and regular season outcomes don’t matter at all in evaluating teams.

It’s a huge reason of why a deep, multi round playoff is wrong for the sport. But watch a 16 or even 20 team playoff get pushed in a few years.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26700 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:40 am to
UGA and Bama will be 3 and 4. Texas at 5,

6. Oregon
7. Ole Miss
8. Mizzu
9. Ohio St/LSU
10. Ohio St/LSU

Then again, they might keep FSU top 10 because of only one loss. LSU is right on the cusp of finishing top 10.
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10810 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:02 am to
That list makes zero sense.

If bama beat Georgia and won the sec… why the frick would Georgia be ranked ahead of them?
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9514 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 5:40 am to
I know it doesn’t matter anymore but most people still consider Georgia to be the true #1

They botched the SECCG but damn they would have waxed any CFP teams and murdered the team in the championship.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4345 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 5:45 am to
quote:

I have no idea how they have Washington at 12 but they try to justify it in the article.
And Penn State at 5 but no Mississippi!

Garbage list.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26317 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 5:58 am to
They won't. Georgia in fact is the best team in the land -- they should be #1 based on eye test alone. They've consistently played the best football all year long
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20443 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:13 am to
quote:

I have no idea how they have Washington at 12 but they try to justify it in the article.
I guess this is what people were using to predict Oregon would beat Washington... both times.

So that's why you need multiple formulas, because not every team is accurately read by each formula.
quote:

-Rankings and scores predictions are based on 20,000 simulations of a team’s season and games, using a combination of key analytics, including scores to date, quality of opponents, team talent, recruiting, and a team’s schedule.

-Teams are ranked not in order of talent like in other rankings, but by a projected point margin per game against an average team on a neutral field.
Aha, that's the issue. Washington doesn't blow teams out. That win over Texas was something like their 9th 1-score game.

Meanwhile, Penn State is #5 because they get a bump from playing Michigan AND Ohio State, and another from scores because they slaughter the rest of the Big 10 by 20-30 pts a game.
I suppose "team talent and recruiting" is why Ole Miss and Mizzou aren't even on this list.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13050 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Texas has two losses why would they be ahead of Georgia?


Because they beat the team that beat them.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13050 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Then shouldn’t Bama be ahead of Georgia???


Yes
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10449 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:47 am to
Those results cannot subvert what actually happened in the games
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20079 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:54 am to
Michigan
Washington
Georgia
FSU
Texas
Ohio State
Oregon
Alabama

Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
17131 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:18 am to
How can Georgia be ahead of Alabama??????
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:22 am to
quote:

I do not understand the ongoing lovefest LSU fans have with UGA.


I have no “love fest” with UGA, they did not deserve to be in the playoff. But they are 13-1 and will be at worst #3 in the final poll most likely
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:23 am to
quote:

How can Georgia be ahead of Alabama??????


The same way Missouri is ahead of LSU. Overall record
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86547 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:25 am to
quote:

If Michigan wins, wash will be 3 and UGA will be 2


Michigan and Washington will be 1/2 there is zero doubt about that. Look at last year even after our drubbing of TCU they still finished 2nd. With UM/UW both currently being undefeated they are locked in for 1/2.

The fact that texas and bama both have 2 losses SHOULD solidify UGA as finishing 3rd but who knows.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86547 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:25 am to
quote:

How can Georgia be ahead of Alabama??????


this thing called wins and losses
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10288 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Prediction

Washington
Michigan
Texas
Georgia
Alabama


Alabama beat Georgia, dumb arse.
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