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re: Examples of rule changes that totally changed sport

Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:09 pm to
if you look at the first 13 rules of basketball, there's a shitload of changes that obviously entirely changed basketball.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:21 pm to
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Are you saying the managers use the exact same strategy in NL parks as they do in AL parks?


Um... my two quotes:


quote:

Agree. And while it may have changed GM/manager strategy, it didn't fundamentaly change how the game was played.


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I said it changed strategy. But it didn't change the "rules" of baseball. The DH still counts the exact same as the pitcher hitting. He still has the same strike zone, the same 4 bases to travel, the same 1 run for scoring, etc.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

if you look at the first 13 rules of basketball, there's a shitload of changes that obviously entirely changed basketball.


Pretty much every sport's the same. The only one that might not be (don't exactly know) is baseball, but that also evolved from completely different games.
Posted by TigerStripes06
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:27 pm to
The DH is just a purist gripe. Personally, I don't like the DH...if you're a manager in the NL in the 6th or 7th inning and you are down with your 789 coming up, you have a little more managing to do then a manager in the AL.

And the celebration rule that will be enacted this season is going to frick UP college football. Something that has absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever WILL change games.
This post was edited on 1/30/11 at 8:28 pm
Posted by ags01
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:37 pm to
Moving the goalpost to the back of the endzone.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
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10189 posts
Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:52 pm to
free agency and salary caps
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

And while it may have changed GM/manager strategy, it didn't fundamentaly change how the game was played.


So, it changed the way GMs do their job, managers do their job, and they way the players do their job (half the pitchers never have to take BP, relief pitchers are handled differently in the two leagues), and changes the outcome of games in the postseason (positively or negatively.)

You could even make the argument that it affects the owners by bringing more offense into the game, selling more tickets.

So, other than the affecting the way players, managers, GMs and owners approach the games than they did before the DH, it hasn't really affected baseball.

I guess it's the same for the umpires?

Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:06 pm to
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Moving the goalpost to the back of the endzone.


No offense, but how did it completely change the sport? I guess FGs had to be ten yards closer, and plays across the middle near the EZ were affected slightly, but that's pretty much it.
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:07 pm to
i would say the changing of the material of the baseball and the height change in the mound
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36590 posts
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:08 pm to
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Sheep


I didn't say it didn't change the game. Just that I don't think it's as good of an example as the 3-point line, forward pass, etc.
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:18 pm to
Exactly. Sheeple like Sheep exaggerate the impact of the DH because some sports writer or talking head told them that it was bigger than it is.
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36590 posts
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:21 pm to
I mean, think of basketball without the 3-point line, football without the forward pass, soccer without the offside rule, etc.

And then think of baseball without the DH.

It's not on the same level as those.
Posted by coachLSU
Member since Jan 2005
22630 posts
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:22 pm to
basketball:

elimination of the jump ball after a made basket
Posted by Lafman
Member since Mar 2010
540 posts
Posted on 1/30/11 at 10:55 pm to
free agency in baseball
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13722 posts
Posted on 1/30/11 at 10:59 pm to
In football you used to have to take a ball carrier to the ground for the play to be dead

If you just knocked him off his feet he could bounce back up and keep running
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54525 posts
Posted on 1/30/11 at 11:28 pm to
The backstroke flipturn.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54733 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:56 am to
maybe nascar letting the "boys have at it?"
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 7:12 am to
Doubles Allys in tennis
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 8:39 am to
Testing for performance enhancing drugs. Didn't change any particular rules of any sport, just had an impact on the competitors and results.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 1/31/11 at 8:52 am to
Football:
The forward pass - removed the risk of death
Illegal contact - Ushered in the modern passing game

Basketball:
The shot clock - The most dreaded words in the world: Four Corners Offense
Three point line - killed the middle range jumper

Hockey:
Elimination of the two line pass - opened up the game which had become nearly unwatchable
Icing - early rule change, prevents defens from just throwing the puck to the other end

Baseball:
The foul-strike - The biggest innovation in baseball rules. Not only do fouls count as strike, but one can't strike out on a tw-strike foul. Completely changed hitting
The foul/fair rule - In the early days, a ball that hit fair was fair regardless of whether it went foul or not. which lead to guys bunting to the corners, making baseball like cricket.
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