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Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:21 pm to Sheep
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Are you saying the managers use the exact same strategy in NL parks as they do in AL parks?
Um... my two quotes:
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Agree. And while it may have changed GM/manager strategy, it didn't fundamentaly change how the game was played.
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I said it changed strategy. But it didn't change the "rules" of baseball. The DH still counts the exact same as the pitcher hitting. He still has the same strike zone, the same 4 bases to travel, the same 1 run for scoring, etc.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:22 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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if you look at the first 13 rules of basketball, there's a shitload of changes that obviously entirely changed basketball.
Pretty much every sport's the same. The only one that might not be (don't exactly know) is baseball, but that also evolved from completely different games.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:27 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
The DH is just a purist gripe. Personally, I don't like the DH...if you're a manager in the NL in the 6th or 7th inning and you are down with your 789 coming up, you have a little more managing to do then a manager in the AL.
And the celebration rule that will be enacted this season is going to frick UP college football. Something that has absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever WILL change games.
And the celebration rule that will be enacted this season is going to frick UP college football. Something that has absolutely no impact on the game whatsoever WILL change games.
This post was edited on 1/30/11 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 1/30/11 at 8:37 pm to cajunatc
Moving the goalpost to the back of the endzone.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:05 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
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And while it may have changed GM/manager strategy, it didn't fundamentaly change how the game was played.
So, it changed the way GMs do their job, managers do their job, and they way the players do their job (half the pitchers never have to take BP, relief pitchers are handled differently in the two leagues), and changes the outcome of games in the postseason (positively or negatively.)
You could even make the argument that it affects the owners by bringing more offense into the game, selling more tickets.
So, other than the affecting the way players, managers, GMs and owners approach the games than they did before the DH, it hasn't really affected baseball.
I guess it's the same for the umpires?
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:06 pm to ags01
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Moving the goalpost to the back of the endzone.
No offense, but how did it completely change the sport? I guess FGs had to be ten yards closer, and plays across the middle near the EZ were affected slightly, but that's pretty much it.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:07 pm to cajunatc
i would say the changing of the material of the baseball and the height change in the mound
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:08 pm to Sheep
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Sheep
I didn't say it didn't change the game. Just that I don't think it's as good of an example as the 3-point line, forward pass, etc.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:18 pm to Buckeye Fan 19
Exactly. Sheeple like Sheep exaggerate the impact of the DH because some sports writer or talking head told them that it was bigger than it is.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:21 pm to Sophandros
I mean, think of basketball without the 3-point line, football without the forward pass, soccer without the offside rule, etc.
And then think of baseball without the DH.
It's not on the same level as those.
And then think of baseball without the DH.
It's not on the same level as those.
Posted on 1/30/11 at 9:22 pm to cajunatc
basketball:
elimination of the jump ball after a made basket
elimination of the jump ball after a made basket
Posted on 1/30/11 at 10:59 pm to Lafman
In football you used to have to take a ball carrier to the ground for the play to be dead
If you just knocked him off his feet he could bounce back up and keep running
If you just knocked him off his feet he could bounce back up and keep running
Posted on 1/31/11 at 5:56 am to rpg37
maybe nascar letting the "boys have at it?"
Posted on 1/31/11 at 8:39 am to cajunatc
Testing for performance enhancing drugs. Didn't change any particular rules of any sport, just had an impact on the competitors and results.
Posted on 1/31/11 at 8:52 am to Poodlebrain
Football:
The forward pass - removed the risk of death
Illegal contact - Ushered in the modern passing game
Basketball:
The shot clock - The most dreaded words in the world: Four Corners Offense
Three point line - killed the middle range jumper
Hockey:
Elimination of the two line pass - opened up the game which had become nearly unwatchable
Icing - early rule change, prevents defens from just throwing the puck to the other end
Baseball:
The foul-strike - The biggest innovation in baseball rules. Not only do fouls count as strike, but one can't strike out on a tw-strike foul. Completely changed hitting
The foul/fair rule - In the early days, a ball that hit fair was fair regardless of whether it went foul or not. which lead to guys bunting to the corners, making baseball like cricket.
The forward pass - removed the risk of death
Illegal contact - Ushered in the modern passing game
Basketball:
The shot clock - The most dreaded words in the world: Four Corners Offense
Three point line - killed the middle range jumper
Hockey:
Elimination of the two line pass - opened up the game which had become nearly unwatchable
Icing - early rule change, prevents defens from just throwing the puck to the other end
Baseball:
The foul-strike - The biggest innovation in baseball rules. Not only do fouls count as strike, but one can't strike out on a tw-strike foul. Completely changed hitting
The foul/fair rule - In the early days, a ball that hit fair was fair regardless of whether it went foul or not. which lead to guys bunting to the corners, making baseball like cricket.
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