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re: Does Anyone Actually Like College Football More with NIL and Unlimited Portal?
Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:32 pm to Jcorye1
Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:32 pm to Jcorye1
The 90s and early 2000s were the golden era of college football. I kept up with recruiting. Loved watching bowl games with random teams like Purdue vs. Texas Tech or Mississippi State vs. aTm. I only missed two or three LSU games in about 12 years.
BUT, between playoffs, portals, commercialism, players not playing in games, coaches and players making too much money, etc. I have lost my passion for college football.
I didn’t love the BCS when it started, but it was the best system.
BUT, between playoffs, portals, commercialism, players not playing in games, coaches and players making too much money, etc. I have lost my passion for college football.
I didn’t love the BCS when it started, but it was the best system.
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Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:37 pm to Jcorye1
For me, it is taking work to enjoy it. There is a limit to how much work I'm willing to put into it. We're not there just yet.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:39 pm to Jcorye1
I feel like the money is going to dry up if they keep depending on donors to foot the bill. What return are they getting on their investment? It doesn’t seem sustainable to me.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:49 pm to Suntiger
More parity is good.
Playoff is making more games relevant to post season chase.
Transfer rules need to be tightened while giving players opportunity to play.
I suspect NIL $ will dry up to some degree and they'll find creative ways to incentivize loyalty/longevity. It only makes sense that a player that stays put is worth more as a local brand than a free agent.
Maybe we'll see players valued over coaches. Could one of these top tier coaches contribute a chunk of their salary to NIL to save a program and get themselves off hot seat?
Let's face it, most these players havent been real students for awhile and besides the in state recruits don't have much allegiance to the schools. I didnt get any more enjoyment watching them play for nearly free while getting mostly useless degrees. Now they're just making some $ in their chosen profession.
Playoff is making more games relevant to post season chase.
Transfer rules need to be tightened while giving players opportunity to play.
I suspect NIL $ will dry up to some degree and they'll find creative ways to incentivize loyalty/longevity. It only makes sense that a player that stays put is worth more as a local brand than a free agent.
Maybe we'll see players valued over coaches. Could one of these top tier coaches contribute a chunk of their salary to NIL to save a program and get themselves off hot seat?
Let's face it, most these players havent been real students for awhile and besides the in state recruits don't have much allegiance to the schools. I didnt get any more enjoyment watching them play for nearly free while getting mostly useless degrees. Now they're just making some $ in their chosen profession.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 6:52 pm to Jcorye1
It will all even out into an equilibrium that everyone can live with at some point.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:03 pm to Jcorye1
2019 LSU Last True Champions
CFB lost its soul after that
CFB lost its soul after that
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:09 pm to Jcorye1
The current transfer portal rules is where the problem lies. It’s not NIL.
Fix the portal and the tampering and roster poaching would decrease.
1. Undergraduate Transfers must sit out a year, without losing eligibility. Zero waivers granted.
2. Post-Graduate Transfers immediately eligible.
3. 2nd Undergraduate Transfer, sit a year and lose a year of eligibility. Exception being a HC change, whereas the player must sit a year, but no loss of eligibility.
Problem would be mostly solved.
Fix the portal and the tampering and roster poaching would decrease.
1. Undergraduate Transfers must sit out a year, without losing eligibility. Zero waivers granted.
2. Post-Graduate Transfers immediately eligible.
3. 2nd Undergraduate Transfer, sit a year and lose a year of eligibility. Exception being a HC change, whereas the player must sit a year, but no loss of eligibility.
Problem would be mostly solved.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:10 pm to Jcorye1
No
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:15 pm to Jcorye1
I hate it
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:23 pm to Jcorye1
In 15 years we will learn about a massive gambling operation involving these NIL leaders
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:24 pm to kingbob
You guys long for a day where only certain teams could pay NIL. I get it. I’m sure for many of your fanbases the days where you could give bags of money to secure top recruits and top 5 finishes was awesome. Now that anyone can do it now man6 of you believe the party is over. It’s not over. It just means the wait for glory will be longer until, like the middle tier, you find the right coach and right QB at the same time.
As for the portal, y’all can stop talking about it. It’s not going back because you can’t hold people hostage anymore like you use to. If that means many if you are going to leave the sport then it is what it is. You’ll easil6 be replaced by fans of schools who haven’t had success in decades and can taste some.
As for the portal, y’all can stop talking about it. It’s not going back because you can’t hold people hostage anymore like you use to. If that means many if you are going to leave the sport then it is what it is. You’ll easil6 be replaced by fans of schools who haven’t had success in decades and can taste some.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:35 pm to Jcorye1
agree 100%
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:42 pm to Jcorye1
I’ve lost almost all interest.
May just be me getting older but in no way do I have the time or energy to keep up with the constant shifting. One of the coolest things about cfb to me was seeing breakout freshman and then following a guy across his 3-4 years somewhere. It was also fun to see how schools replaced guys who moved on or knowing your rivals were finally losing that guy who killed you for the last couple of years.
I get that that’s selfish but if we’re talking what I liked about cfb that was a huge part of it. It was easier to kinda keep inventory of who your team had and how long you’d have some guys together.
NIL plus the portal is WAY too much to follow as a fan to me. I think the product would be much better with one or the other but not both.
May just be me getting older but in no way do I have the time or energy to keep up with the constant shifting. One of the coolest things about cfb to me was seeing breakout freshman and then following a guy across his 3-4 years somewhere. It was also fun to see how schools replaced guys who moved on or knowing your rivals were finally losing that guy who killed you for the last couple of years.
I get that that’s selfish but if we’re talking what I liked about cfb that was a huge part of it. It was easier to kinda keep inventory of who your team had and how long you’d have some guys together.
NIL plus the portal is WAY too much to follow as a fan to me. I think the product would be much better with one or the other but not both.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 7:51 pm to RunningJacket
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You guys long for a day where only certain teams could pay NIL. I get it. I’m sure for many of your fanbases the days where you could give bags of money to secure top recruits and top 5 finishes was awesome. Now that anyone can do it now man6 of you believe the party is over. It’s not over. It just means the wait for glory will be longer until, like the middle tier, you find the right coach and right QB at the same time.
I played for a program that was able to promote itself out of the G5 into the P5 because we had a head coach who built a culture of recruiting under the radar guys with a chip on their shoulder, developing them, growing them up and then putting it all together once these players all grew up. He was a total hardass, and was very demanding, but without unlimited transfer nonsense, the players pretty much had no choice but to deal with it and get better.
This same coach was finally fired because this approach no longer worked in the age of the transfer portal where players would just quit instead of be willing to be coached. It's why a lot of good coaches in football and basketball are quitting these days. Any time a player gets their fee fees hurt they just transfer. NIL makes this 100x worse. It's impossible to build a program via developing players over 3-4 years.
I can't imagine the Rose Bowl team I was a part of being a thing if NIL/transfer portal were around. All of our good players would have transferred out after they had one good season to chase that bag.
I am definitely not a fan of a program who benefitted from being able to pay players. In fact the program I root for has a lot of rich oil money donors who could definitely foot a giant NIL bill if they wanted to. Yet, NIL and the transfer portal sucks balls.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 8:05 pm to Jcorye1
I don't like it. The post season is essentially meaningless if you are out of the playoffs.
I think it can be fixed rather easily though.
Tighten the transfer rules. You can only leave if you are a graduate transfer or a coach on staff that recruited you leaves.
Do away with conference championships and make an FCS style post season bracket. Every conference winner gets an auto bid. 10 teams.
Plus 3 additional auto bids from the SEC, 3 from the big 10, 2 from the ACC and 2 from the Big 12 and 4 at larges to add your other 14 teams for a total of 24.
If you still want bowl games, then have them sponsor the playoff games.
I think it can be fixed rather easily though.
Tighten the transfer rules. You can only leave if you are a graduate transfer or a coach on staff that recruited you leaves.
Do away with conference championships and make an FCS style post season bracket. Every conference winner gets an auto bid. 10 teams.
Plus 3 additional auto bids from the SEC, 3 from the big 10, 2 from the ACC and 2 from the Big 12 and 4 at larges to add your other 14 teams for a total of 24.
If you still want bowl games, then have them sponsor the playoff games.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:07 pm to goldennugget
Who did you play for was going to guess tcu
This post was edited on 11/10/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:24 pm to Jcorye1
I like when kids played like their Cafeteria meal depended on it.
The only thing NIL exposed is this fan delusion of school pride.
Fans care, players care about $ and the next level.
Swapping jerseys every year to the highest bidder gotta be great for the fans right? You really get to know the team and players bleed....(hold, new bidder).
The only thing NIL exposed is this fan delusion of school pride.
Fans care, players care about $ and the next level.
Swapping jerseys every year to the highest bidder gotta be great for the fans right? You really get to know the team and players bleed....(hold, new bidder).
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:24 pm to goldennugget
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Meanwhile I am watching NFL more and more these days. 5 years ago I'd call you nuts if you told me I'd be watching NFL more than College Football but here I am. Might as well watch the real thing instead of the cheap knockoff.
I honestly think commercials and the sheer length of the TV timeouts is the biggest issue. Games feel like they’re going just as long as ever, when we don’t even stop the clock to move the chains anymore. When I get bored over Christmas break, I’m going to watch an old game and compare the commercial time to a game from this season.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:25 pm to Jcorye1
I like it the same.
Posted on 11/10/24 at 10:27 pm to Jcorye1
Football may regress to a very popular rugby, as is.
NIL has killed what most love about football.
NIL has killed what most love about football.
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