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re: Doc Rivers kicks Ben Simmons out of practice, suspends for 1 game

Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:04 pm to



Doesn’t Doc have an “Inmates running the asylum” reputation as a coach? And even he is sick of Ben’s shite.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36279 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:10 pm to
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I will never understand people like this.

“I’m not on a team that can win it all and I don’t like playing for them!”

Crazy thing is Philly is good enough to win or at least make the Finals if Ben would stop being such a bitch.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56463 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:11 pm to
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I will never understand people like this.

“I’m not on a team that can win it all and I don’t like playing for them!”

Gets paid millions of dollars to play a sport, one of the absolutely best jobs in existence, and throws tantrums like a fricking child.

He is an embarrassment.



It’s worse than that.

His biggest complaint is that he folded under pressure last year during the playoffs and embarrassed himself. Pretty much, he was the reason they lost.

This is him dealing with the adversity of failure. He’s a child.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:12 pm to
“Everyone blames me for us losing!!! WAH!!!”

“How many points did you make in the fourth against the Bucks? How many shots did you even take?”

“That’s not fair!”
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
31898 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:13 pm to
I don’t think that is really his rep. Maybe compared to Bob Knight, but in terms of modern coaches, especially in the pros, he is middle of the road.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36279 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:14 pm to
It's pretty wild because the kid is so talented. He just can't handle the criticism to his game.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32441 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:14 pm to
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It should be to most, but in contracts and him trying to get out, he is going to go by exactly what they say not what they infer. I am sure his agent has advised him not to practice because that is not what was asked of him to get his money. That is why I asked if the NBAPA will get involved and what the Sixers have told him to do.
I'm sure that there are team "rules" that are spelled out, and that he agreed to follow those rules. Therefore, he was suspended for conduct detrimental to the team.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56463 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:15 pm to
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So it is conduct detrimental to the team, but they have fined him because he showed up. They never said he had to be in shape.

The NBAPA is going to have to act like they care. They are also going to have to fight for reducing suspensions in next CBA that there must be a process or whatever.

I am sorry, there is a lot to fight on this one. I do not think he should be paid, but as of now, the NBAPA is going to have to say something, either support or not support. Sixers can say it is an internal matter, but they made it public.


This is a clown take.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:17 pm to
It’s not unwarranted criticism either.

Him having no distance to his shot limits the spacing when he is on the floor and him not being able to hit a FT to save his life has mind-fricked him on the floor to where he passes rather than risk getting fouled and being sent to the line.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:20 pm to
This is the Player Conduct in CBA It does not say much about participating just attending.

Section 2. Practices.
(a) When a player, without proper and reasonable excuse, fails to
attend a practice session scheduled by his Team, he shall be subject to the
following discipline: (i) for the first missed practice during a Season --
$2,500; (ii) for the second missed practice during such Season -- $5,000;
(iii) for the third missed practice during such Season -- $7,500; and (iv) for
the fourth (or any additional) missed practice during such Season -- such
discipline as is reasonable under the circumstances.
(b) Notwithstanding Section 2(a) above, when a player, without proper
and reasonable excuse, refuses or intentionally fails to attend any practice
session scheduled by his Team, he shall be subject to such discipline as is
reasonable under the circumstances


Go to Section XXXI and read how he is possibly to get an arbitration out of this.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 2:23 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:21 pm to
Go read the CBA it is not a clown take simpleton
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80225 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:21 pm to
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Did they say he had to practice or just be there?


Doc told him to participate in a defensive drill and he refused.

If this is your standard then why doesn’t everyone just refuse to participate in practices and still get their money?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60148 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:21 pm to
They aren’t punishing him for missing practice

At least not today they aren’t
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Carolina Lo
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2021
174 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:22 pm to
Liking Embiid more and more and disliking Simmons more and more. Simmons is such a punk.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:38 pm to
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Will the NBAPA fight this

They will lose like they always do. I think they know it, too. This is heading towards nuclear options by the owners if another major name does this.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 2:39 pm to
They should send Simmons to the G League to get in some practice. His ego wouldn’t be able to handle that

If the team doesn’t pay him his teammates are going to have the teams back. Silver is going to have to develop a spine at some point when the team decides to suspend Simmons without pay for the season. The dude is right there in terms of material breach of his contract. At least that is an argument the team and the league should make
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139840 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 3:19 pm to
I agree with you but the NBAPA has to fight for its players and take a stand somewhere. I can not wait to see what the new CBA ends up looking like in terms of suspensions and practice guidelines. If the players want te revenue they have to give in on this one. But when you have leadership that makes Gene Upshaw look competent, it is hard to take them seriously.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7312 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 3:39 pm to
Someone on Twitter was saying Simmons went to a strip club after getting kicked out of practice. A Philly strip club at lunchtime on a Tuesday - ain't no young Halle Berrys or young Audrey Hepburns dancing there. You're getting chicks with bullet wounds and fresh C-section scars.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29996 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 3:58 pm to
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plan is likely for them to send him away until they work out a trade.


Still not gonna get paid
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6579 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:11 pm to
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They will lose like they always do. I think they know it, too. This is heading towards nuclear options by the owners if another major name does this.



Would be the best thing for the league.

Players need to be reigned in.

No more guaranteed contracts.

No more super teams.

No more agencies run by active players.

frick Lebron, Klutch, AD, Ball, Simmons and every other dick riding pussy who just has to be in LA, Miami, Chicago or NYC.
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