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re: Dirk Nowitzki: LeBron will be the GOAT when he becomes the NBA All-Time Scoring Leader
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:58 am to Geauxgurt
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:58 am to Geauxgurt
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You breathe on a player now and they get a foul call.
LeBron is one of those stars that hasn’t always been getting the calls that other stars would get.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 10:59 am to Bench McElroy
quote:Anyone who says either Lebron or MJ is better "and it's not close" you can immediately just exclude those folks from any debate on the topic as they're wayyyy too biased.
Dirk Nowitzki: LeBron will be the GOAT when he becomes the NBA All-Time Scoring Leader
Both dudes have a legit argument as being better than the other.
Only other thing I'd add, I'm not necessarily saying he has to be #1 or #2, but Kareem is awfully disrespected in these discussions. Those 3 all belong in the discussion in some form.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:00 am to Geauxgurt
quote:They said that about Jordan for his entire career
You breathe on a player now and they get a foul call.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:48 am to Bench McElroy
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LeBron will be the GOAT when he becomes the NBA All-Time Scoring Leader
Jordan was the GOAT the entire time KAJ was the All-Time scoring leader, and nothing will change just because Lebron takes KAJ place.
MJ went to college, Lebron didnt
MJ took almost 4 years off, Lebron didnt
1072 - MJ games played
1391+ - Lebron games played
1039 - MJ games started
1390+ - Lebron games started
30.1 - MJ ppg
27.1 - Lebron ppg
MJ = GOAT
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:49 am to Bench McElroy
Guy doesn’t get touched for 20 years and everyone is “amazed” at how athletic he is at 38. 90 Eastern Conf finals probably took 3 years off of MJ’s career.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 11:58 am to michael corleone
quote:Yea, because there's a bunch of 38 year olds putting up numbers these days.
Guy doesn’t get touched for 20 years and everyone is “amazed” at how athletic he is at 38
It was also easier to score back then if you have a basic understanding of defensive rules then and now.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:01 pm to Bench McElroy
Jordan averaged 3 more ppg
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:09 pm to Bench McElroy
I don't care what anyone says, Lebron lacks something that players like Jordan or Kobe had.
First, Jordan & Kobe were not really record chasers. Well not to the degree James is. They really didn't give a shite about other things outside of basketball.
This doesn't include their family and of course they were in commercials, but when it came down to it basketball... Well, being the best they could be at what they did what they cared about. Lebron tries to get involved in social issues.. And hey, that's cool. If that what someone wants to do thats on them, but personally if I had to pick LJ in his prime or Kobe in his prime give me Kobe and Lebron isn't better than Jordan.
First, Jordan & Kobe were not really record chasers. Well not to the degree James is. They really didn't give a shite about other things outside of basketball.
This doesn't include their family and of course they were in commercials, but when it came down to it basketball... Well, being the best they could be at what they did what they cared about. Lebron tries to get involved in social issues.. And hey, that's cool. If that what someone wants to do thats on them, but personally if I had to pick LJ in his prime or Kobe in his prime give me Kobe and Lebron isn't better than Jordan.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:25 pm to OweO
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but personally if I had to pick LJ in his prime or Kobe in his prime give me Kobe
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:33 pm to shel311
Bron is better
Than Kobe but not Magic.
Than Kobe but not Magic.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:23 pm to Bench McElroy
Lebron isn't even the best player of his era
and if the other guy wins another one, that'll be game set match on the argument
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:34 pm to tigerpimpbot
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It’s because the mavs beat lebron in the finals. Self serving take is self serving.
What a stupid arse statement. Anyone who followed the NBA during his career know Dirk is never the kind of guy who tries to pump up his own accomplishments. He is self deprecating almost to a fault.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:44 pm to Bench McElroy
It’s a no brainer. He’s goat right now tbh
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:48 pm to TomBuchanan
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Lebron isn't even the best player of his era
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:54 pm to Bench McElroy
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I’m sort of running out of arguments for Michael
i'm a Lebron fan, but this is retarded... arguments for both guys can be made...
IMO, it's Jordan 1a, Lebron 1b... it's hard to ignore what Lebron has done, but it's also hard to dismiss what Jordan did... i'm just happy to have watched a ton of both of them in their primes...
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:38 pm to Pelicanus
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Pelicanus
Lebron could finish with about 10,000 more points, 5,000 more rebounds and 5,000 more assists that MJ.
He will be 1st in points, top 5 in assists, and probably top 25 in rebounds when he retires.
Bird>>>>>>>LeBron
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:54 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
Who could possibly be better than LeBron in this era?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:27 pm to TomBuchanan
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TomBuchanan
Lebron isn't even the best player of his era
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:32 pm to WG_Dawg
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wonder what dirk would think if MJ hadn't spent 3 years of his youth in college and was putting up stats in the NBA instead?
Not to mention being retired for a little while in between.
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