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re: Deshaun Watson has officially requested a trade
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:22 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:22 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
but after a little adversity
Is a little adversity just Bill absolutely fricking their future drafts up for average pieces while trading away a top 5 wr?
Didn't the team also lie to him about including him on the GM search/HC search? The Texans dug their own grave.
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:22 am to texastiger38
quote:
frick JACK EASTERBY
Bill Belichicks greatest torpedo move ever to eliminate an AFC rival
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:22 am to Geauxgurt
I wish nothing but failure and financial pain for them at this point
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:22 am to Alt26
Can someone educate me on the procedure for retiring. What happens if he unretires after a year? His contract picks right up where it left off, correct?
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:23 am to Black n Gold
quote:
Can someone educate me on the procedure fore retiring. What happens if he unretires after a year? His contract picks right up where it left off, correct?
Yeah it would toll until either the Texans released his rights or he unretired and it would pick back up
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:23 am to bbrownso
When did he cry “slavery”?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:24 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
Is a little adversity just Bill absolutely fricking their future drafts up for average pieces while trading away a top 5 wr?
Where was Deshaun when BoB was screwing the pooch? I don't remember the players huge outcry when their coach/GM was making a mess of the situation.
Considering he had his contract coming up, he has some leverage then and did nothing.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:24 am to Black n Gold
quote:
Can someone educate me on the procedure for retiring. What happens if he unretires after a year? His contract picks right up where it left off, correct
Correct
And there may even be a clause where it rolls over every year he doesn’t report to camp or play a game
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:25 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:People outside of Houston might not know this, but O’Brien was Watson’s guy. And Watson was completely fine with O’Brien trading Hopkins.
Is a little adversity just Bill absolutely fricking their future drafts up for average pieces while trading away a top 5 wr?
quote:Don’t get me wrong, the Texans have been absolute dumbasses. And keeping Jack Easterby around? Retarded.
Didn't the team also lie to him about including him on the GM search/HC search? The Texans dug their own grave.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:25 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
whats happened this past year with the texans is not just some simple adversity that is normal to go through
He shouldn’t have signed his contract, then
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:25 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
Yeah it would toll until either the Texans released his rights or he unretired and it would pick back up
So retirement isn't a viable option for him, right? I guess I am a bit confused as to why it was brought up in this thread.
Seems to my uneducated mind that he has less leverage than my 5 yr old has over my wife and I.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 9:27 am
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:26 am to HickoryofOld
quote:
When did he cry “slavery”?
I was discussing the possibility of him (or others) using it in the future as leverage against the Texans.
Because that's what this likely will devolve into, even if he's not the one publicly saying it.
If he's serious, it's one of the stronger counter-moves he could make against the Texans. The franchise he is considered the face of and was told he'd have input and was ignored. Now forcing him to play out his contract and wasting his career.
That's not PR any team wants to deal with today.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:27 am to VermilionTiger
and im willing to bet the texans gave him assurances when he did sign his extension that they would muzzle easterby and would actually listen to him when it came to the coaching search
theyve done neither
theyve done neither
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:27 am to different arse
In his no trade clause, he can waive it and select the teams acceptable to him for trade. If I'm the Texans, I tell him if he wants out, he has to completely waive it or he stays in Houston. He can't demand a trade, then hold the organization hostage while he decides where he wants to go.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:27 am to Black n Gold
quote:
So retirement isn't a viable option for him, right? I guess I am a bit confused as to why it was brought up in this thread.
No not really.
It’s just his only real ability to hold out, he would have to pass on a lot of money, and it still might not work so it’s not his best move
Carson Palmer retired for 2 full seasons from the bengals because he wanted out and they wouldn’t trade him. Eventually they gave up trying to wait him out and had Dalton so they traded his rights to Oakland
quote:
Seems to my uneducated mind that he has less leverage than my 5 yr old has over my wife and I.
Contractually he has almost zero leverage.
But these trade battles are won in the PR campaigns, contracts don’t usually mean a ton
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:27 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
Under the new CBA you can only have like 3 unexcused absences for a hold out until his contract would toll.
So unless he plans on pulling a Carson Palmer, he doesn’t have a ton of leverage if they want to put their feet into the ground
He has more than you think, he is Only making 10.5 this year. 2022 is when he would be really digging into his pockets
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:29 am to Dire Wolf
quote:
He has more than you think, he is Only making 10.5 this year. 2022 is when he would be really digging into his pockets
But when he came back his contract would toll to the next year and he would be set to make 10.5 mil in 2022 and he’s in the exact same spot he is now
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:32 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
and im willing to bet the texans gave him assurances when he did sign his extension that they would muzzle easterby and would actually listen to him when it came to the coaching search
theyve done neither
Well considering they fired Bill O'Brien a month or so after he signed his contract, then the Texans should really be excoriated for waiting to fire Bill O'Brien.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:33 am to different arse
Trade his arse to the Jets and let him continue to lose for the next 4 years.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:35 am to cubsfan5150
Watson
In only 3 full years as a starter has:
2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff win, and signed a 127 million contract
Most high draft pick QBs would kill for that level of "adversity"
In only 3 full years as a starter has:
2 playoff appearances, 1 playoff win, and signed a 127 million contract
Most high draft pick QBs would kill for that level of "adversity"
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