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re: Derrick Henry the highest rated SEC player in the NFL Top 100 for 2021
Posted on 8/29/21 at 5:51 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 8/29/21 at 5:51 am to RollTide1987
I don’t think it’s a question that he’s the best running back in the NFL.
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Posted on 8/29/21 at 12:12 pm to JakeFromStateFarm
What about the other backs? Where do you think they are regardless of what these rankings say?
Alvin Kamara -- I didn't think he was as athletic as he is when watching him in college, but the dude is fast, elusive, and can catch the ball all over the field.
Zeke -- He makes NFL players look like high schoolers, but I don't know if he is declining or not.
Aaron Jones -- Quick and accelerates very fast and avoids defenders well. He can also line up all over the field.
Nick Chubb -- Defenders just bounce off of him. Also reminds me of a guy playing high schoolers.
Dalvin Cook -- He has really good acceleration and just blows by people.
Leonard Fournette -- He actually has really good footwork while running. I think his problem is he lacks initial burst.
Alvin Kamara -- I didn't think he was as athletic as he is when watching him in college, but the dude is fast, elusive, and can catch the ball all over the field.
Zeke -- He makes NFL players look like high schoolers, but I don't know if he is declining or not.
Aaron Jones -- Quick and accelerates very fast and avoids defenders well. He can also line up all over the field.
Nick Chubb -- Defenders just bounce off of him. Also reminds me of a guy playing high schoolers.
Dalvin Cook -- He has really good acceleration and just blows by people.
Leonard Fournette -- He actually has really good footwork while running. I think his problem is he lacks initial burst.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 12:15 pm to RollTide1987
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Discuss.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 12:48 pm to RollTide1987
Top 4 for RB?
Posted on 8/29/21 at 12:48 pm to dnm3305
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I remember very vividly watching him play at Bama and watching him be a product of that environment
Posted on 8/29/21 at 1:00 pm to RollTide1987
Where can I get my shirt at?
Posted on 8/29/21 at 1:07 pm to WolfPackers
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What about the other backs? Where do you think they are regardless of what these rankings say?
CMac and Henry are the clear top two backs in the NFL. Whichever order you want to put them in.
And this ranking is shite. Aaron Donald was in no way, shape, or form the second best player in the NFL last season. Brady was not a top 10 player either. Hell he may not have been top 50.
I wonder how many players actually do the rankings and how many they have to actually rank.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 1:25 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Aaron Donald was in no way, shape, or form the second best player in the NFL last season.
Yeah he was. Even if you don't think he was, these lists are a projection for next year. Hence the 2021 not 2020 in the title.
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I wonder how many players actually do the rankings and how many they have to actually rank.
I think about 1/3 of the players vote and they only list their top 20 (?) players
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 8/29/21 at 1:38 pm to TheWalrus
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I admit, I said he wasn’t that good and was a product of a dominant line at Bama. My football scouting credentials have been revoked.
Titans season ticket holder here. I was actually disappointed the day we drafted him. I thought the exact same thing you did. Henry was elite at Bama because he had the best line in the country. Was convinced we burned a 2nd round pick on him.
I thought of all the Bama backs, Trent Richardson was going to be the Hall of Fame RB. Oh how I have no business ever being a GM.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 8/29/21 at 1:40 pm to WolfPackers
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Alvin Kamara -- I didn't think he was as athletic as he is when watching him in college, but the dude is fast, elusive, and can catch the ball all over the field.
Neither did Butch Jones, hence him being our backup RB for the majority of his career in Knoxville.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 1:50 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Brady was not a top 10 player either. Hell he may not have been top 50.
He threw for 4,600 yards and 40 TDs at the age of 43.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:06 pm to dnm3305
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Fournette was the better back in college and was performing better at the same time as Henry. I think that’s why there’s so much disdain from LSU fans for Henry.
The reason there's so much disdain from LSU fans for Henry is because they pre-crowned Fournette as "best RB evar!!!" and then watched as Henry said "Hold my beer," and actually did all the things they had been crowing that Fournette was going to do. And the same thing has happened in the NFL - once again they pre-crowned Fournette, and once again Henry hold-my-beered them. It is the Tua-Burrow situation in reverse - Bama fans definitely pre-crowned Tua as the GOAT, but Burrow came along and took that title away from him (well, at least for one year, until the true GOAT came along).
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:09 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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The reason there's so much disdain from LSU fans for Henry is because they pre-crowned Fournette as "best RB evar!!!" and then watched as Henry said "Hold my beer," and actually did all the things they had been crowing that Fournette was going to do.
It took Henry 3 more games to surpass fournettes yardage totals
And 87 more touches for Henry and only 104 more yards
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:57 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Yeah he was
No he was not. Not even close.
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Even if you don't think he was, these lists are a projection for next year. Hence the 2021 not 2020 in the title.
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They are ranking them from the previous season.
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I think about 1/3 of the players vote and they only list their top 20 (?) players
That’s atrocious lol. Then again this list only exists to draw clicks and fill air time so
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:59 pm to RollTide1987
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He threw for 4,600 yards and 40 TDs at the age of 43.
Cool story. He had 3 pro bowl receivers, a HoF tight end and 2 pro bowl backs with him.
The QB immediately behind him significantly outperformed last season.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:12 pm to bluebarracuda
I don’t think you should look at it quite like that.
Alabama was attempting to put together a NC season and blindly handing it off to Henry 30-45 times in big games against what we’re probably the best defenses Alabama faced was the safest way to keep those NC hopes alive.
Because of that, he was getting a shite ton of handoffs in miserable situations for a power RB. Games turned into “keep Henry from eventually busting some 50 yard TDs and beating you or here, take your W.” The OL gave up a shite ton of tackles for loss because of it.
I think there a plenty situations where Henry would have been much more efficient if given more strategic touches. With Coker being arse the first half of the season, Henry was tasked with being the offense. It probably hurt his efficiency but he pulled it off with some absolutely incredible play and that should be considered almost as much as other RBs having better yards per carry.
Alabama was attempting to put together a NC season and blindly handing it off to Henry 30-45 times in big games against what we’re probably the best defenses Alabama faced was the safest way to keep those NC hopes alive.
Because of that, he was getting a shite ton of handoffs in miserable situations for a power RB. Games turned into “keep Henry from eventually busting some 50 yard TDs and beating you or here, take your W.” The OL gave up a shite ton of tackles for loss because of it.
I think there a plenty situations where Henry would have been much more efficient if given more strategic touches. With Coker being arse the first half of the season, Henry was tasked with being the offense. It probably hurt his efficiency but he pulled it off with some absolutely incredible play and that should be considered almost as much as other RBs having better yards per carry.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:15 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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No he was not. Not even close.
So where do you think he should be ranked? Since it is a projection list, projecting him to be the 2nd best player next year isn’t at all far fetched.
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They are ranking them from the previous season.
Yes but it’s also a projection list. You seem to understand that because you put CMC up there with Henry. If it was only based on last year, CMC wouldn’t be on the list at all.
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Then again this list only exists to draw clicks and fill air time so
Well yeah. It’s an NFL Network thing
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:17 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Cool story. He had 3 pro bowl receivers, a HoF tight end and 2 pro bowl backs with him.
At age 43.
You'd have a point if he was 28 years old.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:20 pm to RollTide1987
Brady's signature moment to me last year was that kill shot before the half against the Packers in the NFCCG.
the pass to Scotty Miller.
but you know that was also horseshite defense by Green Bay.
The win over the Football team in the wildcard round was his best game (in the playoffs)and they only one that game by 8 points.
the divisional win over the Saints he wasn't anything special. The Saints 4 TO's and punt return for TD called back on a penalty proved to be more pivotal.
against Green Bay in the NFCCG he did fire 3 TDs but also 3 ints.
It's no secret Tampa's defense carried them to the Bowl and then teed off on the weakest version of the Chiefs O-line.
Brady padded his stats the last few weeks of the regular season against bad defenses.
the pass to Scotty Miller.
but you know that was also horseshite defense by Green Bay.
The win over the Football team in the wildcard round was his best game (in the playoffs)and they only one that game by 8 points.
the divisional win over the Saints he wasn't anything special. The Saints 4 TO's and punt return for TD called back on a penalty proved to be more pivotal.
against Green Bay in the NFCCG he did fire 3 TDs but also 3 ints.
It's no secret Tampa's defense carried them to the Bowl and then teed off on the weakest version of the Chiefs O-line.
Brady padded his stats the last few weeks of the regular season against bad defenses.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:22 pm to RollTide1987
That’s awesome. Dude was and still is a wrecking ball. I’m a huge LSU fan and have no problem saying any of this.
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