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re: DAT Off-season Thread: YWCHA Edition
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:38 am to wahoocs
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:38 am to wahoocs
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We already paid him $50 M for 1 game in 2 seasons. And regardless of where he ends up, I think our lineup would bust his arse in a playoff game
I think we paid him $66MM for one game in two seasons.
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:26 am to Tigerfan1274
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I think we paid him $66MM for one game in two seasons.
No
The Covid season was prorated
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:28 am to Jwho77
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"I love the Astros but not as much as I love money."
Same, JV. Same.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:36 am to wahoocs
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Not worth a debate, but Verlander’s grandkids will never work on the interest earned off of Kate’s income alone. LOL
JV’s eventual deal will say all we need to know about his priorities and how he feels about his time in Houston.
I just do not get this argument at all. The total amount of money doesn't matter at all. I would never begrudge someone for want a 60-70% pay raise. Say all you want about income tax, but you will still have a higher net after that raise. Also, because only home games are impacted by where you live, the difference, while there, isn't as high as it could be.
It's a job. Why in the world would anyone expect someone to not take that kind of an increase if you can get it?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:57 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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as long as they throw the money at a couple bats.
This is the part that bothers me. They have not thrown the money at major areas of need recently while letting key talent leave. It has worked out but 22' was very fortunate with the offensive deficiencies and relying on a bullpen that likely is never that dominant again.
I'm not expecting much. However signing JV probably means a trade of one of the other pitchers which could land a bat although not a huge name.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:31 am to Tiger Ryno
The market for CF and 1B are not ideal. It's not like SS.
When push comes to shove, I can see where it has to be tempting to fill our holes from the inside
Chas has proven to be serviceable enough to likely get us to Gilbert, especially with the hedge on Meyers returning to '21 pre-injury form
And we really haven't given anyone a legitimate opportunity at 1B
There's just not going to be enough urgency to do anything until the trade deadline
When push comes to shove, I can see where it has to be tempting to fill our holes from the inside
Chas has proven to be serviceable enough to likely get us to Gilbert, especially with the hedge on Meyers returning to '21 pre-injury form
And we really haven't given anyone a legitimate opportunity at 1B
There's just not going to be enough urgency to do anything until the trade deadline
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:43 am to Tiger Ryno
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However signing JV probably means a trade of one of the other pitchers which could land a bat although not a huge name.
I think this happens, regardless of JV. Urquidy and Stanek are probably both gone. It is clear, Dusty is calling the shots on player/personnel. He doesn't like Stanek and he won't be around next year.
Urquidy, Stanek and Whitley could actually bring in a nice bat. Have no idea who, but I'm sure there are a few out there that could be part of a trade.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:44 am to Floating Change Up
Lol I doubt they trade stanek.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:45 am to wahoocs
Wahoocs, are you willing to bet your career on Jake Meyers?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:48 am to Floating Change Up
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Urquidy and Stanek are probably both gone
lol
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:51 am to wahoocs
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The market for CF and 1B are not ideal
There is also the LF/DH issue. If they’re going with Yed as the everyday LF (which I’m NOT in favor of) they have to fill the DH slot. And I know Brantley’s been mentioned but he will get hurt somehow. I really wish they would pursue someone like Benintendi for LF and keep Yed at DH. I could live with Chas in CF under that scenario.
Is chasing Benny and Abreu out of the question if JV walks?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:52 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
From a money standpoint not at all. I bet they get around 35mm or so a year combined. Would we be that aggressive in free agency when historically we haven’t been? I think that’s the real question
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:53 am to Tiger Ryno
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doubt they trade stanek
Why would they keep him? Dusty clearly has no usage for him. He's merely taking the spot of Dusty's coveted left-specialist role.
Dusty will have his left-specialist.
And Urquidy has already been part of one proposed trade. So he clearly is expendable.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:00 am to Floating Change Up
Stanek has a role in the regular season because you need the depth. He walked 31 dudes 54.2 innings last year and Abreu, Neris, Montero (for the most part) all filled up the strike zone so they were the better options in the post and it played out that way.
Not to say Stanek couldn't have had effective innings in the post, but the idea clearly was let's keep BA cooking and go with guys we know are going to be in the zone.
Not to say Stanek couldn't have had effective innings in the post, but the idea clearly was let's keep BA cooking and go with guys we know are going to be in the zone.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:00 am to Tiger Ryno
CF was never the hole it was made out to be, unlike catcher and first base. The analytics back that up. They should roll with Chas, Jake and maybe see Leon/Dirden soon. Fix the other spots with money
Healthy Jake Meyers with a normal offseason and spring training? Yes, I'm ready to roll with him.
Healthy Jake Meyers with a normal offseason and spring training? Yes, I'm ready to roll with him.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:02 am to Jwho77
Agreed, I'm okay with running it back at CF with that tandem UNLESS they are able to swing a deal for a Bryan Reynolds type.
But you have to upgrade significantly at two of DH/LF, 1B, or catcher.
But you have to upgrade significantly at two of DH/LF, 1B, or catcher.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:05 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Would we be that aggressive in free agency when historically we haven’t been? I think that’s the real question
Exactly. And it will be a huge indicator of whether or not that Schwab article was legit or not. If Crane REALLY wanted Marte, he could have done it himself as he reportedly did with Verlander. The scenario that was described flew in the face of a typical manager/subordinate relationship.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:08 am to Jwho77
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Healthy Jake Meyers with a normal offseason and spring training? Yes, I'm ready to roll with him.
i am on that train. Meyers hit .260 as a rookie in 2021. If he can get back to that then i will be happy.
If chas/jake slip, then try to fill that at the dead line. Spend the money on some power at first.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:11 am to Dire Wolf
Slightly change of scenario... what are you GMs willing to give up at the trade deadline for Ohtani?
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:12 am to Tiger Ryno
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It has worked out but 22' was very fortunate with the offensive deficiencies and relying on a bullpen that likely is never that dominant again
Ryno for GM.
Pitching carried us this year. Pitching carried us through the playoffs when our best bats were nowhere to be found. Pitching, particularly relief pitching is volatile year to year.
The shift ban likely impacts our pitching, particularly Framber as a groundball pitcher. So we're going to need more offense. Can't continue to hope pitching covers for holes at C, 1B, LF and CF.
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