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re: DAT Off-season Thread: YWCHA Edition

Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:29 am to
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:29 am to
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Ryno for GM.


Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:30 am to
Urquidy, Whitley, Chas, Jake and Corey Lee
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:44 am to
I loved his progression in '21

Right now he's a 4th OF at best

Odds are getting long
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104001 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 10:54 am to
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However signing JV probably means a trade of one of the other pitchers which could land a bat although not a huge name.


I have a name for you all.
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
1756 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:10 am to
I still say that at the reported numbers you let JV walk. I'm still a fan of the 6 man rotation that helps when someone gets hurt.

1. Valdez
2. Javier
3. LMJ
4. Lunch Lady
5. Urquidy
6. Brown

You keep Lance's innings down and ease Brown into the rotation. That's impressive young depth. If Whitley becomes half what he was supposed to be that's still a serviceable starter too.

Pitching wins in October and it's hard to argue with what they have even though statistically the bullpen will have to regress.

Centerfield isn't the spot that worries me, a Chas and Jake platoon can work. Heck half the AL center fielders in the playoffs last year were ex Astros, the farm system is working.

Catcher needs to be addressed but that's been the case for 30 years.

Lock up 1B and CF DH and go repeat. Right now this team has enough where you're retooling, not rebuilding.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:13 am to
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Whitley
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108286 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:17 am to
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Healthy Jake Meyers with a normal offseason and spring training? Yes, I'm ready to roll with him.


Bookmarked.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104001 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:21 am to
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I'm still a fan of the 6 man rotation that helps when someone gets hurt.


No doubt.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108286 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Ryno for GM


I can't afford the pay cut, baws.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102302 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:24 am to
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You keep Lance's innings down and ease Brown into the rotation.


You keep Lance's innings down when he inevitably goes on the IL and Brown steps in.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24896 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:32 am to
LMJ's continuous evolution should lead to an Odorizzi role, followed by set up man

His 12-6 breaker is long gone along with his UCL

He can't trust location on his FB enough to use it.

The writing is on the wall. Innings will never be his friend
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
60907 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:40 am to
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LMJ's continuous evolution should lead to an Odorizzi role, followed by set up man

His 12-6 breaker is long gone along with his UCL

He can't trust location on his FB enough to use it.

The writing is on the wall. Innings will never be his friend


All of this. He just doesn’t have swing and miss stuff anymore. I’d be very surprised if his best days aren’t behind him.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108286 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:52 am to
Put a fork In him. Good thing is we only owe him 50 mill.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 11:57 am
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
Member since Feb 2021
1756 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:57 am to
I've always wondered what the trade market for LMJ would be.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7307 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:03 pm to
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If Whitley becomes half what he was supposed to be that's still a serviceable starter too.



Just no.

He has been nothing but trouble and injuries. Too late. If anyone is willing to give us something halfway decent for him, we should offload that problem.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24896 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:55 pm to
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It's a job. Why in the world would anyone expect someone to not take that kind of an increase if you can get it?


This is a lot less about what he can or will do from my perspective. More to do with keeping this team's competitive balance.

We can afford to be sentimental about re-signing Yuli, and I even think we can also do the same for Brantley

Verlander is an entirely different discussion. What my comments are based on is the fact that with the tax implications surrounding his next deal, we will definitely know if all things being equal, he wants to truly be in Houston and how much he values that

IMO, that would still be too much to offer, but also IMO, it's a moot point
Posted by EyeOfTheFeTiger
Member since Apr 2021
468 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:30 pm to
Not saying I want to pay JV 3/130 but I do think it’s rolling the dice to go with the 6 guys we have if you have an opportunity to get JV back and you say no.

Framber - as others have mentioned, groundball pitcher and TBD how shift affects him
Lance - no faith in him staying healthy for a full season as a starter
Javier - never pitched a full season as a starter
Brown - first full season as a starter is likely to be inconsistent and they’ll want to limit his innings
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
4855 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:23 pm to
Don't forget Urquidy and Garcia. That's two more MOR starters. Either re-sign JV and trade Urquidy and/or Garcia for a bat, or let him walk and spend that money on a big bat.
Posted by 5 Deep
Crawford Boxes
Member since Jul 2010
24514 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:46 pm to
Wow Mariners just traded Kyle Lewis to the dbacks.


Which is bizarre cause he was good and the dbacks have a ton of young OF guys and prospects

Glad to see Lewis out of the division though
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102302 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:54 pm to
Most forgettable RoY ever? Won covid RoY and then disappeared.
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