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re: DAT 6/21: Houston (Fiers) @ Oakland (Manaea) 9:05 CT

Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:45 pm to
Verlander is such a heavy fly ball pitcher that he just wouldn't be a good fit.
Posted by wahoocs
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:02 pm to
Verlander won't be the TOR guy we need unless some kind of mega deal takes place that involves JD Martinez, Musgrove, Bregman, Tucker, et al

I just don't see it happening, but I will say I trust Luhnow to do his due diligence. He has shown the ability to identify useful, necessary pieces during his off seasons and drafts.

Let's hope he includes a deadline deal to that list.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:32 pm to
Astros reliever Jandel Gustave underwent UCL reconstruction surgery on his right elbow this morning in Houston. He's out for the season.

So he won't be a factor again until 2019. Bummer.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Update on Collin McHugh: He threw his first live BP today in Florida. All went well. He's scheduled to throw simulated game later this week.


ETA: Morton Rehab start tomorrow
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 2:51 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:45 pm to
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Collin McHugh


I hope he doesn't ultimately need surgery... if he comes back right after the all star break and still has issues, he'd be out for all of next year. That would most likely end his time with the Astros.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 4:17 pm to
He's done. Don't count on him.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 4:26 pm to
There's a difference between being done and you wanting him to be done.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by Warheel
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:20 pm to
Fiers' transformation the past few starts has been amazing. Thanks Lance.

I'm afraid Gray might be another Kazmir..do not want. Seeing deGrom's name made it move until I realized how much it would cost.

I looked up Mark Appel's numbers. 5-3 with a 5.03 ERA. From his game logs he either gives up 1/2 runs in 5/6 innings or gets bombed.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:26 pm to
More than ever lunhow is going to wait it out. No deal will get done before the deadline. No need to overpay for marginal upgrades. If you go then go big to make yourself a tougher out in the playoffs. See if Cole keeps up the improvement
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:28 pm to
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Seeing deGrom's name made it move until I realized how much it would cost.


I'd give up Martes and Tucker or Fisher + Paulino and some other lower level prospects for him.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:39 pm to
Also, not really Astros related but thought it was a cool story.

I'm sure some of you heard Ben McDonald talking about his rookie year when Cal Ripken called all of his pitches from SS.

That's amazing
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:40 pm to
I was born a Cole miner's daughter
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 7:59 pm to
He's just an old chunk of Coleeee but he's gonna be an Astro some dayyyyy
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:18 pm to
Since you looked up Appel, I looked up Brady Aikens numbers for Clevelands A squad..

1-8
4.03
1.672 WHIP
9 H/9
5.9 BB/9
6.0 K/9


This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 8:20 pm
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25299 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:24 pm to
Yeah, Aiken has never got his velocity back. Throwing in the high 80s, he's what 2 years out from TJ?

People around baseball liked to shite on Luhnow/Astros for their decision, but clearly it was the right one and we dodged a huge bullet in the rebuild process. That pick netted us our starting 3B
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 8:57 pm to
THIS DATE IN ASTROS HISTORY



June 21
2003 - Rodrigo Rosario wins his big league debut as Houston holds on for a 9-5 victory, their second straight win against the cross-state rival Texas Rangers. Craig Biggio starts the game with his 32nd career leadoff homer. Richard Hidalgo and Jeff Bagwell also go deep. Houston moves past Chicago into first place in the Central Division, one win ahead of the Cubs and the Cardinals.
2001 - In Enron Field fashion, the Astros belt five home runs and lose to the Reds, 8-7, in eleven innings. Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell and Richard Hidalgo go deep in a four-run first. Lance Berkman adds four hits and two homers. Cincinnati smacks four long balls of their own but mere singles produce the game-winner.
1992 - Pete Incaviglia slams a two-run shot while Butch Henry and Doug Jones combine to blank the Dodgers for a 2-0 victory. The series sweep sees Los Angeles held scoreless for 24 consecutive innings. Jones notches his 16th save of the season.
1973 - Lee May belts three home runs as Houston puts a 12-2 hurt on the Padres . May's three bombs net five runs. Tommy Helms socks a grand slam for four more while Cesar Cedeno contributes a solo shot. Ken Forsch picks up the complete game victory although he allows Dave Winfield's first big league homer.
1964 - The Colts spank the Milwaukee Braves, 5-2 and 5-4, to complete a four-game sweep. Rusty Staub is the opening-game star with four hits, including two home runs. Pitcher Ken Johnson and outfielder Joe Gaines go deep in the nightcap. Bob Lillis picks up five hits in the twinbill. In addition, the team signs high-school phenom Larry Dierker.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
95109 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:13 pm to
Our man Chris Carter is wasting his life playing anywhere other than Coors Field.

Looking at some scores and I see Mark Reynolds playing for the Rockies hit his 18th home run and is batting .302 for the season. Mark Reynolds. since the Rockies signed him he's hitting like .320 at home and .260 on the road.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:16 pm to
frick. Forgot Manea is a LHP

This should be a nice 2 run game for Houston. fricking kryptonite
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
95109 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:23 pm to
Well Fiers looks on point.
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