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re: DAT: 2017 World Champions Houston Astros offseason discussion: ASTROS ACQUIRE GERRIT COLE

Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:03 pm to
I, for one, will miss Gattis.
Posted by Pnels08
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:06 pm to
So my 3 yr old niece loves Bregman and he was at the league city academy today. My brother and sister in law took her to see him, waited in line for a few hrs and when she finally got to see him she blew up in excitement. He went for a high five but she told him knuckles. IT was awesome and he made her day. She is still buzzing. Bregbaw hell of a draft pick ludlow
Posted by wahoocs
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:21 pm to
Should that be the case, I will too, but he is definitely an emergency C only going forward.
Posted by wahoocs
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:28 pm to
Thx for sharing. That is cool.

It was evident before the season started that the Astros were marketing Bregs big time. He has the work ethic and confidence necessary to avoid letting all this go to his head.

I chuckle when I think about Bregman's slow start and my concern that holding onto him could have cost us the arm we needed to win a WS. We end up with our cake and eating it too.

Bregs HRs off Sale were icing on that cake.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:29 pm to
I just don't see him staying if they sign another catcher. They'll trade him to help boost the farm and save the money.
Posted by wahoocs
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:32 pm to
How much is he owed for how long?

I would think they would like to move him prior to signing another C, just to keep leverage.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:51 pm to
Looks like Gattis has no deal in place, but was paid 5.2 last year. At that price, kinda hard to say what might happen.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:06 pm to
This is the last year of control on him, so I would think they'll move quickly to deal him.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:12 pm to
The Yankees melt on /r/baseball is giving amazing


“BUT OPS!!!
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

Guess who else was just confirmed to attend......... Jonathon Lucroy.

Hmmmmmmm........


Can someone explain the logic behind signing Lucroy?
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:55 am to
Defensive backup to McCann who has potential to be more than a backup which is good because McCann is getting old, allows us to move on from Gattis which theoretically opens the door for a LHH bat to replace him in the lineup, evening out the lineup a bit.

That’s my guess on the logic, whether it’s the right move to make is a different debate
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Today in 2011, the Astros are sold to new owner Jim Crane. The deal was dependent on the new owner's acceptance of the franchise being switched from the NL Central to the AL West in 2013, a move that reportedly lowered the sale price from $680 million to $615 million.


6 years ago today, the process started.

We are now World Champs

I love when a plan comes together
Posted by dhav14
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:55 am to
The outcome was never in doubt
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:07 am to
Posted by El Campo Tiger
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:26 pm to
I'm thinking Jonathan Lucroy to Astros is all but a done deal.


Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:36 pm to
Bill James on Altuve/Judge debate in-depth:

quote:

We come, then, to the present moment, at which some of my friends and colleagues wish to argue that Aaron Judge is basically even with Jose Altuve, and might reasonably have been the Most Valuable Player. It’s nonsense. Aaron Judge was nowhere near as valuable as Jose Altuve. Why? Because he didn’t do nearly as much to win games for his team as Altuve did. It is NOT close.


LINK
Posted by High C
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 6:44 pm to
Shhhh, numbers everywhere.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:34 pm to
That was an interesting read.

It kind of highlights why Luhnow transformed an Astros lineup full of Aaron Judge type players (not as good as judge, but high-K high-HR types) to what the team was this past season.

WAR and WRC+ only takes you so far.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

allows us to move on from Gattis which theoretically opens the door for a LHH bat to replace him in the lineup, evening out the lineup a bit.



Why are we trying to move on from Evan gattis?
Posted by dhav14
Member since Jun 2014
9547 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:54 am to
I’m not sure we are, but if you wanted to improve the defense of our catching unit and add a LH bat to the lineup, that’s one way you could do it.
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