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re: Comprehensive MLB Winter Meeting Trade & FA Thread
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:08 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:08 pm to WestCoastAg
Prime age is typically considered 26-30. So yeah, technically you're right. He's still in his prime for the upcoming season.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:15 pm to papz
I'm so pissed at the Reds today. They have shown they have no interest in winning or even fielding a competitive team.
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:15 pm to papz
quote:Less because the last season has an option with a 2.5m buyout
Either has 53.5 million owed over the next 3 seasons. Ain't nobody wants to pay Either 9 million a year even if the Dodgers eat half.
quote:That is considered elite in today's game only 20 MLB players hit more home runs than Kemp last season
He is not an elite power hitter. And with the move to Petco, those numbers look to decline as well.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:18 pm to papz
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He is not an elite power hitter.
he was 4th in the NL in SLG last year
i mean he may not be Mike Stanton-elite, but i think you're kinda selling him short. If he's healthy, he's gonna hit
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:29 pm to tduecen
I didn't count his 2018 season which they can buy out for 2.5 mil. That leaves 2015, 2016, and 2017.
We have a difference in opinion in elite. That's fine. I consider 30 type guys as elite power hitters. He has one 30 homer season under his belt in a time where people were still juicing. Not saying he juiced, I'm just saying.
I don't think I am. He can definitely hit for power. When you talk about being elite, he's not up there with the Stanton, Bautista, E5, Abreu, etc. of the league. He's under the category.
I think he'll hit... if healthy. I think if he goes 20/90 in that ball park(obviously there's potential for more) the Padres will be getting their money's worth... especially with that extra 31 million.
We have a difference in opinion in elite. That's fine. I consider 30 type guys as elite power hitters. He has one 30 homer season under his belt in a time where people were still juicing. Not saying he juiced, I'm just saying.
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he was 4th in the NL in SLG last year
i mean he may not be Mike Stanton-elite, but i think you're kinda selling him short. If he's healthy, he's gonna hit
I don't think I am. He can definitely hit for power. When you talk about being elite, he's not up there with the Stanton, Bautista, E5, Abreu, etc. of the league. He's under the category.
I think he'll hit... if healthy. I think if he goes 20/90 in that ball park(obviously there's potential for more) the Padres will be getting their money's worth... especially with that extra 31 million.
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:32 pm to Lester Earl
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Mike Stanton-elite
Could you imagine if they cloned Mike Trout and Giancarlo Stanton?
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:41 pm to Bho
quote:
I'm so pissed at the Reds today. They have shown they have no interest in winning or even fielding a competitive team.
The payroll for their market size says differently. Just a matter of fact, gotta make payroll.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:45 pm to barry
Kemp without legs is a good player but definitely not a 20 million dollar one. His defense is average at best, he doesn't steal bases anymore. For a corner OF his power is ok.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:46 pm to papz
quote:Rogers Center, Rogers Center, Cell
When you talk about being elite, he's not up there with the Stanton, Bautista, E5, Abreu, etc. of the league. He's under the category.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:58 pm to Louie T
I'd be a fool if I said ball park factors don't matter because they do. With that said, Abreu hit 6 more on the road, Bautista hit 1 more at home, and E5 4 more at home. Very little discrepancy there. And I think we can both agree their power can pretty much translate anywhere as well... Another reason why they're elite power hitters.
If we're going to start calling Matt Kemp an elite power hitter, we might as well call Adam LaRoche one too.
If we're going to start calling Matt Kemp an elite power hitter, we might as well call Adam LaRoche one too.
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:06 pm to papz
I don't foresee Kemp magically regaining health so it makes the point kind of moot regardless, but I think a healthy Kemp playing in TOR is a 35 HR guy. Dodger Stadium is a beastly also; I would think there's a good 3-4 HR difference between Dodger Stadium & Rogers/Cell over a statistically significant sample size but I don't care to do scour google for that at the moment.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:08 pm to barry
quote:
His defense is average at best
He was the worst defensive OF last season, I believe
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:11 pm to papz
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If we're going to start calling Matt Kemp an elite power hitter, we might as well call Adam LaRoche one too.
Agreed. Kemp has pop. I don't think he's an elite power hitter though.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:11 pm to Louie T
Dodger stadium was right behind Rogers center and US Celluar was 8 spots below them. 3, 5, and 13.
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:17 pm to papz
1 year park sample sizes don't mean much; it is far too lineup oriented.
I read a link a while back that had historical park factors but can't seem to find it. I will post it if I do.
I read a link a while back that had historical park factors but can't seem to find it. I will post it if I do.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:20 pm to GynoSandberg
Worse than Holliday?! I kid Matt was decent last year somehow.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:21 pm to UltimateHog
quote:Nah
I kid Matt was decent last year somehow.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:22 pm to Louie T
The last 3 years there isn't a big gap. They all were 13 ish once in the last 3 years. Toronto was 3 twice and the other two pretty much swapped spots. But it's pretty much a given that we know Rogers Center is a band box.
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:37 pm to Louie T
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it is far too lineup oriented.
E5, Bautista, and even Colby Rasmus all averaged 400'+ on their HRs last season. Pretty sure those dudes bomb in any park. Outside of JBats 54 HR season, his home/road HR splits are pretty even. E5 doesnt have a big discrepancy, either.
I think the year Aaron Hill and Adam Lind went bonkers had people thinking Rogers Centre was a bandbox. Their dimensions seems pretty normal. 328' down the lines, 375' in the alleys, 400' straight away. Not sure where it stacks up vs other parks, though
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:38 pm to GynoSandberg
it's not the dimensions, rather the neutral variables that come with a domed stadium
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