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re: Chad Morris is on quite a run

Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:27 am to
Posted by DoctorWorm
Member since Jul 2021
1515 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:27 am to
he wasn't all in. he was distracted. the people around him knew it and the results showed it
Posted by ThisisAggieland
Somewhere in fricking WI
Member since Sep 2022
1784 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:29 am to
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I never got how that landed him an SEC job in the toughest division of college football



I honestly believe that Arkansas was desperate enough to hire him

This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61268 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:37 am to
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Notwithstanding any other term or condition in this Agreement, Coach shall have an affirmative duty to mitigate in good faith by seeking other comparable employment in the event this Agreement is terminated for convenience, as well as an obligation to comply with any mitigation and/or other conditions set forth in this Agreement. The Liquidated Damages Payment shall be offset by any employment related compensation received by Coach, whether from athletic-related or non-athletic-related sources, and Coach shall have an affirmative duty to timely disclose all such earnings.


Making a reported $141,000 a year to coach the Allen Eagles apparently wasn't acceptable to offset anything.

The payment of the $10 million he was owed was to be made monthly through the end of the contract Dec. 31, 2023, but was to be offset by any other employment compensation Morris received.

The contract makes it clear he had to try and get a real job, but maybe the point that could be argued is "comparable employment."

Without offsets, the payment would be about $205,000 monthly, or almost $2.5 million a year.

The Razorback Foundation has shown being a graduate assistant for an NFL team or being vastly underpaid as a position coach didn't count. They took former coach Bret Bielema to court and everybody settled things.


LINK


It's also funny that Piglets are jumping on USF as a thing when they were 1-8 and 2-10 the two years before he became an analyst for HC Jeff Scott who was his former WR coach at Clemson.

Damn y'all are bitter.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
4381 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:46 am to
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Allen is a proud program that had a 15 year run of winning district. Same coaching, same philosophy, etc. Previous coach retired and Morris came in and cleaned house, brought in his own guys and changed everything. 10 months later he chases money back to college and everyone else leaves and Allen is left with nothing. Also had 20+ players quit or leave the district

Since he’s left they went 7-4 and are now 0-2 (both losses at home. They had lost 2 home games combined in the last 12 years). It’s a very sore subject.

They had it rolling and he burned it to the ground. I also blame the superintendent for hiring him in the first place.
which is crazy because he was great coach at lake travis about a decade ago.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3227 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 9:58 am to
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He’s made a ton of money off Clemson’s national championship run that he had absolutely nothing to do with.



Not true. CM saved Dabo's job at the time by bringing in the tempo spread offense. He also was very responsible for recruiting Deshuan Watson and many others.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37584 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:02 am to
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his SMU teams were improving but in 3 years he went:

2-10
5-7
7-5

I never got how that landed him an SEC job in the toughest division of college football


It was at a time when former high school coaches with fancy offenses were the rage in college- Art Briles, Gus Malzhn, Hugh Freeze.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12680 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:10 am to
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I don’t know how you go from being a HC at an SEC school and less than 5 years later you’re likely not going to get hired by anyone in the sport


Being arguably the worst head coach in SEC history doesn’t help.

Neither does getting a tenured coach fired at Auburn and then driving an elite high school program into the ground.

Also, probably doesn’t help that nearly every program he’s been at has gotten markedly better after he left.

Clemson never won more than 11 games with him as OC and were going to the CFA and Russell Athletic Bowl. The year after he leaves they started a run of 6 straight CFP appearances (and 2 titles).

He was 14-22 at SMU. Sonny Dykes takes over and wins 10 games in year 2, and ultimately goes 30-17 with 3 straight bowl trips.

He was 4-18 (0-fer in conference) at Arkansas. Sam Pittman takes over and wins 9 games in year 2.


The guy is the King Midas of college football, only everything he touches turns to shite instead of gold.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by 45RCRoy45
Northern VA
Member since Apr 2020
687 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:30 am to
Fascinating - I remember his first team meeting in Arkansas was co soldered the model to how it’s properly done - seems like he just had a huge ego that got to his head

Would you agree? Not the same guy who was humble and started at Clemson… has the new guy started to turn things around?
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:36 am to
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He wasn’t allowed enough time in my opinion.


Never in my years of watching sports did I turn on a coach so quickly. Told us he was going to hire the best DC in the land. I knew that was bullshite even before they announced it was Chavis who had already been tossed around the sec like a used Kleenex.

Chad sucked and should have been fired early in his second season.

Worst coach ever.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
11789 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:51 am to
There should be a 30 for 30 on this guy. I thought he was a genius about 12 years ago when he was doing things at Clemson we'd never seen before. I never would've thought he would have this steep if a downward trajectory
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61268 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:58 am to
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He was 14-22 at SMU. Sonny Dykes takes over and wins 10 games in year 2, and ultimately goes 30-17 with 3 straight bowl trips.


SMU was a in a bad way when he got there and he had to clean up the mess left by June Jones. After getting the ASU job yanked out from under him Jones wouldn't even leave his office to recruit local schools in DFW and it showed as he went 7-6, 5-7, 1-11 his last 3 years.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 11:03 am
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32772 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:04 am to
Yeah, I think his resume is quite good before Arkansas.

Then, he was an all-time failure due to a mix of his talent being less than expected, as well as extreme arrogance on his part.

Clemson was a generic mediocrity and he put them in a position to become elite.

SMU was a tough job and he did well, but he rode the trend of high school coaches being perceived as groundbreaking geniuses to the point where it all collapsed.
Posted by Gnash
Cypress, Tx
Member since Oct 2015
9908 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:23 am to
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which is crazy because he was great coach at lake travis about a decade ago

Won a 4A title at Bay City before Lake Travis, too.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7754 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:27 am to
There are a lot of these really shitty coaches lurking in both the NFL and College Football and it makes almost no sense that they keep getting hired.

If you were that bad at a real job, you’d be regulated to being an overnight stocker at Wal Mart by now.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14654 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:44 am to
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He’s made a ton of money off Clemson’s national championship run that he had absolutely nothing to do with.


Agreed this is false. While he wasn't there for any of the title games, the program had great offensive success while he was there (with QBs worse than Watson and Lawrence) and were clearly trending up. His offense was innovative, and he must've done something right getting Elliot and scott prepared to take over.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6374 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 2:07 pm to
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I agree he wasn’t a complete failure back then, his SMU teams were improving but in 3 years he went:

2-10
5-7
7-5

The #7 in 7-5 was the game where they stopped Tulane on the 1 inch line (if they did at all) on the last play of the game; otherwise, both would have been 6-6.
And then there's Jeff Scott, probably the worst head coach in FBS history. He was co-OC at Clemson before becoming HC at South Florida.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14092 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 3:20 pm to
Banks was in. The game seems irrelevant now but I was pissed at the time because it was a clear touchdown and Tulane got screwed out of bowl game

Back to Chad Morris. Not much difference between 6-6 and 7-5. Both are considered pretty mediocre especially with a G5 schedule. Arkansas took a gamble thinking he would bring Deshaun Watson Clemson to Fayetteville and obviously it didn’t work
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3519 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 5:48 pm to
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He had it in his contract that school staff couldn't speak to him unless he spoke to them. ?


quote:

Source is from an employee at the school.


I presume TX has some sort of open records law. I'd have to see that in an official source to believe it.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33042 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 6:08 pm to
Worst coach in sec history.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18532 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 6:11 pm to
he didn't get Gus fired, Gus did
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