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re: CFP Chairman says CFP expansion was blocked for three primary reasons

Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:46 am to
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:46 am to
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NCAA
Well this isn't the ncaa. So there's that
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:48 am to
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Nobody cares about the Rose Bowl anymore and I'm pretty sure the area they live cares even less. Why are we still acting like this bowl is special? Especially when they've gone far out of their way in the past to choose undeserving teams to "preserve tradition" over deserving teams.


The Rose Bowl had the same number of viewers as one of the playoff games this year. People still care
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:51 am to
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There hasn't been a season where the 4 seed was deserving. No reason to bring in an undeserving 5 through 12.



What?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 10:52 am to
No one cares about big10 vs pac12 game
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:00 am to
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More people having a chance to win a title is a good thing.



No it’s not. I get that people think the NCAA tournament is exciting and all that other nonsense, but as a way to determine a champion/the best team, it’s atrocious.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:01 am to
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No one cares about big10 vs pac12 game


The Rose Bowl has the highest two TV ratings of non-semi-final NY6 games since the CFP started so.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:02 am to
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There hasn't been a season where the 4 seed was deserving. 


You do know the 4 has won it all twice?
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:09 am to
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Well this isn't the ncaa. So there's that
Reading comprehension isn't your thing apparently.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:10 am to
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More people having a chance to win a title is a good thing.


Less people will have a shot. If you're tired of seeing Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, etc in the playoffs wait until you expand the field. You'll never be rid of them. Your only real hope of keeping them out is to choke them off in the regular season. Let's face it, who are you going to bet on; that Ohio State/Oklahoma/Alabama level blue blood who stubbed their toe and snuck in as an 11-seed, or that NC State/West Virginia/Iowa State Cinderella that had its once a generation miracle season and is a 2- or 3-seed? You expand the playoffs and you are guaranteeing it will be nothing but blue bloods.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:23 am to
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Im so tired of the Rose Bowl thinking they can hold college football hostage with their BS


They literally did. They don’t just think they can.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:24 am to
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Reading comprehension isn't your thing apparently.
No. Different orgs have different objectives/incentives. It's not that hard to grasp.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:29 am to
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Amazing how the NCAA has ZERO problem with the 24 team format in the FCS, but when it comes to FBS level the powers that be clutch their pearls over the amount of games.
ncaa is pretty much irrelevant here. any of their talk is just to dupe people into thinking they're relevant.
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
15144 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:29 am to
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No. Different orgs have different objectives/incentives. It's not that hard to grasp.
WOOSH!

Go back and read my original statement.
NCAA = FCS
Powers that be = FBS
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37001 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:40 am to
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If you expand to 12, you would be asking some teams to potentially play 17 games right?


If they were student athletes I might care, but they are paid professionals now.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69612 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:40 am to
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Amazing how the NCAA has ZERO problem with the 24 team format in the FCS, but when it comes to FBS level the powers that be clutch their pearls over the amount of games.


1. The NCAA has no jurisdiction over post-season play in the FBS beyond imposing penalties on schools/athletes who violate NCAA rules.

2. The FCS all play an 11-game season and do not have conference championship games. The most games an FCS team will play in a season is 16, even with the 24-team playoff.
This post was edited on 2/19/22 at 11:42 am
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38849 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:41 am to
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If you expand to 12, you would be asking some teams to potentially play 17 games right


Remove a regular season game

Disallow FCS matchups

Success
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
15144 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 11:46 am to
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1. The NCAA has no jurisdiction over post-season play in the FBS beyond imposing penalties on schools/athletes who violate NCAA rules.
Jesus, how many people are going to miss the part where I say FCS = NCAA and FBS = powers that be?
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17423 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:14 pm to
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Matter of fact, I think the conferences are against expansion because they don't want to lose that conference championship game

The Big XII didn't have a conference championship game for a few years, and people, including many on this board, cried about them not having one. Particularly in 2014 when TCU and Baylor both had a shot to make the CFP. Only then did they ask the NCAA for an exception to have it again.

I'm not arguing for or against conference championship games. I'm just saying that the problem with college football for the last 30 years has been how reactionary it can be.

Constantly tinkering with systems doesn't necessarily make things better. It just creates new issues to argue about.
Posted by Shameless
Member since Jan 2017
914 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:17 pm to
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I'm fine with 4. Michigan, Michigan State, Oregon, Washington, Florida State, and Oklahoma have had their opportunities, even while Bama/Clemson/OSU/UGA/LSUhave owned the format.


Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16834 posts
Posted on 2/19/22 at 12:21 pm to
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Rose bowl’s tradition cheated fans out of Penn st vs Nebraska in 93 and Michigan vs Nebraska in 97. Kiss my arse grand daddy of them all.




Also UGA vs USC in 2007. That would have been a hell of a game but instead we got USC-Illinois and UGA-Hawaii, two total mismatches
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