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re: Can you see Dak winning the SB as franchise QB?

Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:21 pm to
Rams had top DL
The Cowboys have a top 5 front 7. They just need to figure out how to cover folks
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:23 pm to
With the right breaks you can absolutely win a super bowl with Dak

The eagles just won one with Foles and Dak is better

The Pats just won a super bowl 13-3

Denver won a couple years ago with a zombie Peyton


In saying that, I am not saying he is worth a mega contract
This post was edited on 7/27/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:26 pm to
Dak is going to get top 10 money because of the market. He has playoff wins and a division championship. We all knew it was coming. Stevie Boy will not cap lock this team.

The Cooper contract will be crazy
This post was edited on 7/27/19 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:27 pm to
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3. It’s going to be 2 years after Nick Foles won SB MVP.



People keep saying Foles but I think you need to go back & watch his playoff run

Dak is simply not capable of playing on that leve

Furthermore a Dak led team is scaring no one on the road in the playoffs
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:29 pm to
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& watch his playoff run

Dak is simply not capable of playing on that leve

Furthermore a Dak led team is scaring no one on the road in the playoffs


Ok how about Peyton’s run?

Dak is roughly 20x better than Peyton was
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:39 pm to
They had the best defense in the league, and Peyton at that point was not a franchise QB

It’s not going to happen often but yea sure any QB can piggy back a great team if the pieces fall right.
This post was edited on 7/27/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Knownothing
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:42 pm to
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It’s not going to happen often but yea sure any QB can piggy back a great team if the pieces fall right.


Understand your point but Jamies Winston says otherwise.

A turnover machine QB can't win a super bowl in today's NFL even with a great team
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:45 pm to
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It’s not going to happen often but yea sure any QB can piggy back a great team if the pieces fall right.

Thank you

And Dak is far far better than just ANY qb like you said

He is a top half of the league quarterback. In only his 1st year he led his team to a first round bye in the playoffs. In only his third year he led his team to a playoff win

Making threads on if it’s possible to win a super bowl with him seems like extreme hyperbole
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:49 pm to
That’s fine but that wasn’t the spirit of the question
Posted by swift
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 1:51 pm to
I just hope they break the bank with all three of them.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 4:44 pm to
You are stupid.....
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 7/27/19 at 11:46 pm to
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In only his 1st year he led his team to a first round bye in the playoffs. In only his third year he led his team to a playoff win


He led? Or the rb that pulled 2k yards from scrimmage?

What happened when the rb got suspended or sat out? The qb didn't do shite.

Being honest, you can win it all with dak. But paying him elite money is a bad move.
Posted by Carville
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:07 am to
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Absolutely, he wouldn’t even on the top 10 list of worst QBs to win a SB. Johnson Dilfer McMahon Namath Hofstetler Rypien Williams Foles Flacco Theismann Griese Dak is, at a minimum, better than all the above SB winning QBs.
:rotflmao:
Posted by Carville
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:08 am to
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The eagles just won one with Foles and Dak is better
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 7:51 am to
Anything can happen when you have a solid defense.
Posted by hankiba
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 8:11 am to
Of course he can. Analyze the winners of Superbowls closely. Tom Brady is the GOAT but who really led the Pats to all those rings- good defenses and great defensive game plans.

When the Saints won the Superbowl, Drew Brees gets the credit but a special team's play and a interception won that ring.

Dak is good enough NOT to lose games. That's all he needs to do with the Cowboys' defense.

Posted by rilesrick
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 9:44 am to
Nope. Jerra knows that too. Dark not a natural thrower of the ball zero deep ball threat . He in a bad spot
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 9:49 am
Posted by mullenite
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 4:58 pm to
stat comparison

How does dak catch so much flak compared to the other 2 QBs he was drafted with. Wentz and Goff receive more positive publicity while dak constantly gets shite on. He has better numbers than both of them through their careers so far. Stayed healthy. Less help at receiver then the other 2. What more must he do.
This post was edited on 7/28/19 at 5:01 pm
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:27 pm to
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How does dak catch so much flak compared to the other 2 QBs he was drafted with. Wentz and Goff receive more positive publicity while dak constantly gets shite on. He has better numbers than both of them through their careers so far. Stayed healthy. Less help at receiver then the other 2. What more must he do.



nobody thinks goff is any good. i'd be surprised if he got paid 30mil+

Wentz on the other hand showed a flash of being a MVP-caliber QB -- all without the help of a MVP caliber RB, but his issues are largely injury. FWIW, I still think paying him 32mil annually is stupid.
Posted by swift
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Posted on 7/28/19 at 5:50 pm to
Goff is catching a lot of shite.
Wentz was an MVP frontrunner before he got injured.
Dak just isn't dangerous, IMO.

I look at it like this, if you take away the run game from all of these QBs, which ones have the ability to dominate through the air? I don't think Dak can do it.
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