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re: Cal, Stanford and SMU to the ACC are again under consideration

Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:18 pm to
Both the UNC and FSU 247 sites have already confirmed that the GOR would not be impacted and there are already provisions in it that account for the ACC adding new schools and how they would simply roll into it
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43772 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:22 pm to
I hope they are added and all get more money. The ACC needs to exist. Having more than 16 in the SEC would be a hassle.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:30 pm to
All won't get more money but the plan is simple. ESPN will give the ACC roughly $72 million/year for these new schools, per the current contract. For the first 7 years, SMU will get none of that. Stanford and Cal will get roughly 30% of their normal share to start with a very slow ramp up.

That leaves $50+ million per year to be paid out in whatever incentive plan (mostly football related) they agree upon. That's basically the hold up that should be settled shortly - what will that incentive plan be?

Also, it's assumed Notre Dame will keep playing Stanford yearly plus 5 other ACC schools as they have been.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:32 pm to
Whatever the incentive is it still won't be enough for Clemson and FSU.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
80559 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:34 pm to
Well, they aren't needed to pass the vote (it appears UNC/NC State have been swayed) but they'll still benefit from it if they win a lot of football games. They can't leave the ACC anytime soon so they should realize the chance to earn more money with the success they already assume/expect is better than nothing.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51727 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

On that theory, the SEC should replace Missouri or Vanderbilt with SMU.


That might not be a bad idea but the SEC isn’t hurting for schools in TX… SMU is more valuable to any conference that isn’t already in TX
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148081 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 12:43 pm to
We are years away from that being an issue. Who the hell knows what CFB will look like in 2030
Posted by Gangsacked
Member since Jan 2019
41 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:17 pm to
Notre Dame can join no other conference than the ACC through 2036, assuming the ACC exists.

If Notre Dame wanted to join the Big 10, they would be working to explode the ACC (enable defections to SEC and Big 10).

ACC should work to add them as football member by giving offering them a reduced payout, but allowing ND a separate 5 game NBC contract.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42809 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:40 pm to
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San Francisco Chronicle, which is reporting that Cal, Stanford and SMU are "in the process of finalizing a deal" to join the ACC in football as well as men's and women's basketball.



wonder what happens to Cal and Stanford's other sports?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86587 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 1:44 pm to
ACC going to stick with an odd number of schools? I guess with ND it would be even in every sport but football?
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59931 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:38 pm to
Take Tulane you cowards!
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148081 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:57 pm to
Pretty crazy development. The ACC just adding schools for almost free to hit a trigger that they almost certainly will share the majority of with only FSU, Clemson, and UNC just to basically bribe them to shut up
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 3:58 pm
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14092 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Take Tulane you cowards!

Unfortunately SMU has set the standard for G5 teams moving up that you must be willing to eat a decade of working for free

I don’t think Tulane is doing this plus the money doesn’t seem to be there. Not saying they are poors just don’t have the booster support that SMU does
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51727 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

nfortunately SMU has set the standard for G5 teams moving up that you must be willing to eat a decade of working for free


It also doesn’t hurt that they’re located in the DFW metroplex…
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6587 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:08 pm to
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It also doesn’t hurt that they’re located in the DFW metroplex…



Chocolate covered turds are still turds.

Just because a university is in a metro area does not make for a good athletic partner.

Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
11486 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 5:20 pm to
Cal and Stanford probably join the Big West or West Coast Conference for other sports.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
59931 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:07 pm to
Reading rumors that if ACC rejects Calford ESPN will then go to try and make the Big 12 take them. Pretty gross how they (along w/Fox) murdered a conference purely to keep Apple out of the CFB game.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 8:09 pm
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
4125 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:35 pm to
Nothing says “Atlantic Coast” quite like “Dallas, Texas”
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36225 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:37 pm to
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Take Tulane you cowards!


Would be a better add than smu
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6129 posts
Posted on 8/24/23 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Would be a better add than smu


Lol.

Nope. Better market, school, deeper pockets, etc
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