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Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:06 am to TigerintheNO
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do the Sabres and Bills have the same or different owners?
Same owners. Terry and Kim Pegula.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:11 am to Wally Sparks
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100% public funding
Negative
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and to help cover some renovation costs to the Pegulas' NHL Sabres arena in downtown Buffalo
Negative
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:28 am to McCaigBro69
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Why do the people always approve the tax hikes then? Are you saying people shouldn’t be listened to and votes should be ignored?
They don't always approve them. San Diego was the most recent example.
Also, sometimes these tax hikes get hidden in other state bills that voters don't have an opportunity to vote on.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:33 am to MikeyFL
This works if you allow the city 100% control of ticket prices and 100% of the profit from ticket sales ??
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:34 am to blackandgolddude
Start the Toronto Bills chatter....
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:44 am to BregmansWheelbarrow
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I’m sure the fans in Buffalo are going to fall all over themselves to give the bills what they want. They seem like the one fan base where this might actually go over halfway decently.
I believe when the Packers first started renovations back in the mid-90s for Lambeau it only received 53% in favor of the tax hike.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:45 am to Wally Sparks
Wait till Los Angelians find out how much "They" paid for Kroenkes stadium and complex down the road, a new Mayor who doesn't like Billionaires, will check the books and almost faint at the lost revenue,tax breaks,etc ala, were not paying for the stadium.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 12:39 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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Ownership must not care if they have to move?
They don’t. That’s the leverage. They can court a handful of other cities willing to foot the bill.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 12:56 pm to MikeyFL
quote:Seattle refused & the NBA relocated the Sonics.
They don't always approve them. San Diego was the most recent example.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:02 pm to Wally Sparks
100% public funding? 
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:02 pm to Wally Sparks
Wonder how this will play out since owners no longer have that “I’ll move to Los Angeles!” threat.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:10 pm to danilo
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Wonder how this will play out since owners no longer have that “I’ll move to Los Angeles!” threat.
There’s ALWAYS a move to Los Angeles threat.
Why stop at 2 teams for a metro area of 13 million?
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:10 pm to danilo
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Wonder how this will play out since owners no longer have that “I’ll move to Los Angeles!” threat.
Replace “Los Angeles” with St. Louis, San Diego, or (in this case) Toronto.
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:12 pm to High C
Agreed. They're not going anywhere. Loyal fans, despite the lousy weather
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:13 pm to Wally Sparks
Manufacturing incentives have to outweigh giving money to already rich sports owners for stadiums
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:14 pm to Wally Sparks
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Replace “Los Angeles” with St. Louis, San Diego, or (in this case) Toronto.
Maybe. But teams already left 2 of those cities (and moved to LA) in part because they didn’t get new sweetheart deals for a new stadium.
If they didn’t do it for the Chargers why would SD agree to do it for the Bills?
Posted on 8/1/21 at 1:17 pm to Wally Sparks
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St. Louis
Not the same lure as LA
Posted on 8/1/21 at 2:30 pm to Wally Sparks
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Replace “Los Angeles” with St. Louis, San Diego, or (in this case) Toronto.
And you might as well throw in London and Mexico City
Posted on 8/1/21 at 2:33 pm to Wally Sparks
Perfect timing to ask now… Josh Allen going to be around for a while … this thing going through if the Bills go to the playoffs this season …
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