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re: Better NBA career: Kobe Bryant or Tim Duncan
Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:38 am to jfan244888
Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:38 am to jfan244888
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the 73 win team and and you get a higher regarded run.
73 wins and it resulted in no title. Just like the 2007 Patriots who went "18 and NO!" and the 2011 LSU Tigers who defeated every team they played that year (just couldn't beat one of those teams twice.)
Good seasons. Fun seasons. Awesome moments throughout. ultimately though, they are unmemorable. Ask anybody about the 2007 Patriots, and the first and only thing they remember about that team is the miracle pass in the Superbowl.
Ask anyone about the 73 win Warriors, they'd tell you about how that's their favorite championship warrior team. After you tell them the Warrior's didn't win the title that year, they'd ask you, "They didn't? Yeah they did. Really? What year are you talking about? Who won the championship? Oh yeah! Now i remember" That season isn't remembered at all really. But people do remember that Lebron won a championship for Cleveland.
2011 LSU? You ask anyone about that season and they'll remember the Honey Badger. Won't be able to name a single player on the Bama team, or any of the other LSU players. But they remember the Honey Badger,
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:43 am to slutiger5
Naw, love the game and the greats that played it.
I’m getting older, and one of the greatest honors ever given to me was being lied to. Great player I taught, would lie and say we were running with 7 or 8 players. Before I knew it I showed up the only big man, and had to run 40 minutes. In my soul I was the guard, now I gotta rebound, screen, not stab, etc…
Duncan has him, unfortunately.
I’m getting older, and one of the greatest honors ever given to me was being lied to. Great player I taught, would lie and say we were running with 7 or 8 players. Before I knew it I showed up the only big man, and had to run 40 minutes. In my soul I was the guard, now I gotta rebound, screen, not stab, etc…
Duncan has him, unfortunately.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:57 am to KCRoyalBlue
Incorrect. But congrats on showing your own ignorance.
24/17/5/5 blocks
Duncan was putting up Jokic-like atatlines before Jokic was a teenager.
Go look up his performance in Game 1 and Game 6 of that Finals on YT and tell me again how he never lead a team. Tony Parker was benched for much of that series because of his turnovers, Manu was a rookie, and David Robinson was 100% washed due to all the previous back injuries.
That was on par with Lebron in 07 as one of the all time carry jobs.
24/17/5/5 blocks
Duncan was putting up Jokic-like atatlines before Jokic was a teenager.
Go look up his performance in Game 1 and Game 6 of that Finals on YT and tell me again how he never lead a team. Tony Parker was benched for much of that series because of his turnovers, Manu was a rookie, and David Robinson was 100% washed due to all the previous back injuries.
That was on par with Lebron in 07 as one of the all time carry jobs.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:48 am to jfan244888
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Tell me you didn't watch the 3003 Finals without telling me.
I bet you $100 you didn’t watch the 3003 finals either.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 6:58 am to boomjosh
It was Tim Duncan 100/100 times until Kobe died. No one had Kobe in their top 10 (outside of obvious Laker homers) before he died.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:51 am to Rouge
quote:wrong. Duncan was too scared to cover the opposing team's best big man. Kobe is massively overrated and no where close to the best anything but at least he had the nads to cover the opposing teams best player.
Duncan is the best PF of all time.Bryant is not the best SG of all time.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 9:07 am to jfan244888
Wtf does that have to do with the 3003 NBA Finals?
Posted on 4/10/26 at 10:18 am to Epic Cajun
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It was Tim Duncan 100/100 times until Kobe died. No one had Kobe in their top 10 (outside of obvious Laker homers) before he died.
Unrelated, but it’s incredible how Kobe may have raped a woman, but died a hero and family man and girl dad less than 20 years later. In that regard, you could argue the Kobe fanboys are worse than Lebron.
BTW - Duncan with the better career, but Kobe could take over a game like nobody else
Posted on 4/10/26 at 10:25 am to theunknownknight
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The same Duncan that led the USA to a bronze medal before Kobe showed them how it was done? Duncan was the 3rd/4th best player in his own team during his last several playoff runs. Dude’s way overrated now, he never had to carry a team on his back alone.
When Duncan is paired with Allen Iverson as a co-captain, you know the Olympic team is in trouble. You had 19-20 year olds in LeBron and Melo, and known team player like Marbury. frickin Emeka Okafor was on the squad
As for Timmy being 4th best? I’ve been told on here constantly that the Spurs only won under Pop because they had all these HoFers. Now, one of them isn’t even that good? Duncan absolutely carried that 2003 team. The ‘05 title team was in the same era where you dumped it down low.
And speaking of not being the best on the team…are we not going to acknowledge prime Shaq during some of Kobe’s title runs?
Posted on 4/10/26 at 10:52 am to jfan244888
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Duncan was putting up Jokic-like atatlines before Jokic was a teenager.
Duncan is GOAT PF but let’s not act like he or anyone else puts up Jokic like numbers
As a side note, compared to today some of the stats on those MVP winners and the runners-up were lame. Look at the stats and voting when Duncan won back to back. The game was so different
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:01 am to Epic Cajun
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It was Tim Duncan 100/100 times until Kobe died. No one had Kobe in their top 10 (outside of obvious Laker homers)
There was this weird anti-Lebron faction that also overrated the hell out of Kobe who argued he was better than Lebron to hilarious extent (and still do)
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:14 am to magildachunks
quote:Holy shite
73 wins and it resulted in no title. Just like the 2007 Patriots who went "18 and NO!" and the 2011 LSU Tigers who defeated every team they played that year (just couldn't beat one of those teams twice.) Good seasons. Fun seasons. Awesome moments throughout. ultimately though, they are unmemorable. Ask anybody about the 2007 Patriots, and the first and only thing they remember about that team is the miracle pass in the Superbowl. Ask anyone about the 73 win Warriors, they'd tell you about how that's their favorite championship warrior team. After you tell them the Warrior's didn't win the title that year, they'd ask you, "They didn't? Yeah they did. Really? What year are you talking about? Who won the championship? Oh yeah! Now i remember" That season isn't remembered at all really. But people do remember that Lebron won a championship for Cleveland. 2011 LSU? You ask anyone about that season and they'll remember the Honey Badger. Won't be able to name a single player on the Bama team, or any of the other LSU players. But they remember the Honey Badger,
I am willing to bet this is also a “LeBron is top 25” type guy
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:16 am to TexasTiger08
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In that regard, you could argue the Kobe fanboys are worse than Lebron.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:33 am to SenGooner
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Duncan, Dirk, Hakeem all were better than Kobe
Dirk better than Kobe, geez.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 11:46 am to boomjosh
The Spurs made the playoffs every season of Duncan’s 19 year career and had a .719 win percentage over the same period.
Those were fun teams to watch.
Those are insane stats.
Those were fun teams to watch.
Those are insane stats.
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 11:48 am
Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:22 pm to SenGooner
Dirk? Lol come on
Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:29 pm to Frac the world
It was harder to score back then and they played at a slower pace.
And even back then Duncan always had low averages compared to how good of a player he was. Those spurs teams were built on a team offense, passing the ball around.
And even back then Duncan always had low averages compared to how good of a player he was. Those spurs teams were built on a team offense, passing the ball around.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:35 pm to boomjosh
All in all Tim had the better coach and a better cast around him (other than Kobe having Shaq for a couple years).
Of course, Tim never won the championship with a player quite as good as Shaq (Robinson comes close.) But Duncan was better than Kobe when they won their first rings. Honestly Kobe is lucky he had Shaq when he got drafted, cause he wouldn’t have the same # of rings otherwise.
Kobe will be remembered as the better player, he had a more legendary status, he sold shoes and shirts, and he had the backing of playing for LA. And this was all true before he died, which only adds to his legend.
Kobe had better numbers. He carried worse teams. Duncan never had to cause Pop made sure the team was always competing. Duncan played a team game and didn’t care about numbers at all.
Both were great defenders but Timmy definitely deserves the edge.
Timmy was all in all better but they will remembered as being about equal and that is fine with me. Both are legends.
Both clear easily Dirk btw.
Of course, Tim never won the championship with a player quite as good as Shaq (Robinson comes close.) But Duncan was better than Kobe when they won their first rings. Honestly Kobe is lucky he had Shaq when he got drafted, cause he wouldn’t have the same # of rings otherwise.
Kobe will be remembered as the better player, he had a more legendary status, he sold shoes and shirts, and he had the backing of playing for LA. And this was all true before he died, which only adds to his legend.
Kobe had better numbers. He carried worse teams. Duncan never had to cause Pop made sure the team was always competing. Duncan played a team game and didn’t care about numbers at all.
Both were great defenders but Timmy definitely deserves the edge.
Timmy was all in all better but they will remembered as being about equal and that is fine with me. Both are legends.
Both clear easily Dirk btw.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:36 pm to justaniceguy
Kobe also forced his way out of Charlotte and specifically to the lakers. That is lame. Tim Duncan was happy to play for the spurs and will be remembered as the best player in their franchise.
Posted on 4/10/26 at 12:40 pm to justaniceguy
T Mac was better than both of them when I was a kid. His career got wrecked by injuries and he never had the teams or coaches they had. It is a tragedy he won’t be remembered the way he deserves. He was the best player in the early 2000s.
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