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re: Better coaching job for college baseball: FSU, UF, Clemson, or GT
Posted on 2/17/15 at 5:09 pm to Moustache
Posted on 2/17/15 at 5:09 pm to Moustache
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FSU has good facilities, good fanbase, good history. Academics are meh
there's nothing wrong with fsu's academics. why are you rating them with the ole meh?
imo, FSU is the class of the 4 you mentioned. UF just doesn't seem to embrace college baseball. imo, Clemson is clearly #2 on your list.
sorry but the ACC has some pretty strong baseball programs.
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Posted on 2/17/15 at 5:10 pm to Moustache
i'd go with g.t. because baseball can literally be the flagship of that school.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 5:22 pm to poochie
Arizona State
Texas
How are these NOT better than Vandy? Texas doesn't need to recruit as much nationally. There is enough in state talent to support 3 perennial title contenders any given year...and probably 6 or 7 solid programs each year total.
Texas Tech, TCU, A&M, UT have all made the CWS in TD Ameritrade, and it's not like Rice and Houston suck.
ASU gets West Coast talent into a refurbished facility and has a great rising coach to boot.
UCLA
UNC
No title for UNC, but these two have the resources to be as good as Vandy every year. UCLA needs a stadium upgrade though.
Texas
How are these NOT better than Vandy? Texas doesn't need to recruit as much nationally. There is enough in state talent to support 3 perennial title contenders any given year...and probably 6 or 7 solid programs each year total.
Texas Tech, TCU, A&M, UT have all made the CWS in TD Ameritrade, and it's not like Rice and Houston suck.
ASU gets West Coast talent into a refurbished facility and has a great rising coach to boot.
UCLA
UNC
No title for UNC, but these two have the resources to be as good as Vandy every year. UCLA needs a stadium upgrade though.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 5:34 pm to LSU GrandDad
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there's nothing wrong with fsu's academics. why are you rating them with the ole meh?
Because it applies.
Posted on 2/17/15 at 8:35 pm to oldcharlie8
one thing about baseball... they may not be football or hoops, but they ain't there to play school either IMO
Posted on 2/17/15 at 9:02 pm to chalmetteowl
ASU is a great gig
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:34 am to jlnoles79
I think out of that list the University of Florida highest ceiling.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 7:48 am to Muahahaha
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I think out of that list the University of Florida highest ceiling.
I do too. They're closer to the hotbeds of talent in florida like Orlando and Tampa and some South Florida kids than FSU is.
Miami is a private school, so they will be a little bit disadvantaged.
UF is prestigious enough to recruit well in the Northeast similar to how Vandy does it.
If UF wins a few championships, I can see their fanbase getting pretty huge. They already have better attendance than UGA, Auburn, and Vandy. They were 12th in attendance last year, which is decent for a Florida school. With some hardware, I can see them catching TAMU, FSU, and Texas in attendance.
Remember the swamp wasn't shite for attendance until SPurrier built it up.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:01 am to Moustache
1. FSU
2. Florida
3. Clemson
4. Georgia Tech
2. Florida
3. Clemson
4. Georgia Tech
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:47 am to Moustache
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Miami is a private school, so they will be a little bit disadvantaged
You say Vandy is a top 2 job, yet Miami is disadvantaged by being private.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 8:59 am to Moustache
Atlantas so concentrated compared to those other spots.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:01 am to jlnoles79
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You say Vandy is a top 2 job, yet Miami is disadvantaged by being private.
This. Miami also has a natural local recruiting base compared to Vandy.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:27 am to jlnoles79
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You say Vandy is a top 2 job, yet Miami is disadvantaged by being private.
Vandy gives out need-based financial aid to all students because their endowment is much higher than Miami's. Since they do it for all students, they can do it for baseball players. THis is well documented and it's become the reason they recruit so well. These kids are able to get a Vandy education for next to nothing in cost between the need-based financial aid and the baseball partial scholarship.
Miami/Tulane doesn't have the money in their endowment to be able to do it that as much as Vandy does.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:29 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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This. Miami also has a natural local recruiting base compared to Vandy.
I'd argue Central TN and Atlanta is just as good, if not better than Miami's base.
Do you people really not know about Vandy's advantage in college baseball?
Read this article. That fact, plus the prestige of the degree is very attractive to kids all over the country. Add in the local recruiting base of Central TN and Atlanta, Vandy has a very good recipe for long term success.
LINK
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:40 am to Moustache
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local recruiting base
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Atlanta
Atlanta is what, 3.5 hours from Nashville? I don't consider that local. And you are high if you think central TN has better baseball talent than South Florida.
I'm aware what Vandy does as far as scholarships, Rice does similar stuff. Vandy isn't a top 2 job in college baseball, and saying it is severely underrates the job Tim Corbin has done to build that program. They had been to the tournament like three times before he was hired.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:48 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
Let's see how good Vandy is long after Corbin is gone. Miami Has been an elite program for decades.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 9:50 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 9:53 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Atlanta is what, 3.5 hours from Nashville? I don't consider that local.
Yeah I grew up playing at East Cobb (the major Atlanta program) and Vandy was not a school that anyone considered local to the area.
They hold no recruiting advantage over any other school in the SE if you are basing it by proximity to Atlanta.
This post was edited on 2/18/15 at 9:56 am
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:26 am to jlnoles79
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Let's see how good Vandy is long after Corbin is gone.
Any program, no matter how good, can suck if they get a bad coach. (see LSU with Smoke Laval)
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Miami Has been an elite program for decades.
Miami hasn't been to the CWS in 7 years and haven't gotten past a regional in 5. Good, yes. Historically elite? Yes. Currently elite? No.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:28 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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And you are high if you think central TN has better baseball talent than South Florida.
I was saying Central TN combined with NGA/ATL is elite. Look at where Vandy is getting their star players. It's from the Northeast and Atlanta.
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m aware what Vandy does as far as scholarships, Rice does similar stuff.
Nobody does it on the level of Vandy. Tim Corbin did a great job getting that program to be attractive. He is a tremendous coach. But I don't see how Miami or even ASU could be rated above Vandy as far as attractiveness for a job. Vandy can go nationwide like LSU does. It's huge.
Posted on 2/18/15 at 10:38 am to Moustache
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Nobody does it on the level of Vandy. Tim Corbin did a great job getting that program to be attractive. He is a tremendous coach. But I don't see how Miami or even ASU could be rated above Vandy as far as attractiveness for a job. Vandy can go nationwide like LSU does. It's huge.
They are better because they have been elite programs for decades. You have to be an awful coach to lose at places like ASU and Miami.
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