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Posted on 7/12/22 at 1:09 pm to nosaj
quote:
Kobe is the most overrated player in the history of the game.
He is ridiculously underrated by people on this board specifically who just hate the guy. People here rank him in the 15-20 range all time.
It’s mostly stat nerds who have never played the game or won much of anything in their lives and are unable to quantify anything that doesn’t show up in a stat book. It’s laughable.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 1:21 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:
People here rank him in the 15-20 range all time.
That's about right. Litearlly off the top of my ehad without thinking
Jordan
LBJ
Bird
Magic
Kareem
Shaq
Duncan
Durant
Wilt
Steph
That's 10 who are clearly better. Then you get to guys like:
Russell
Barkley
Malone
Wade
Pippen
West
KG
Hakeem
Robertson
Nash
Isaiah
Stockton
And current players who are underrated historically:
Giannis
Harden
Kawhi
Jokic
You can definitely get to 20 without trying too hard before Kobe belongs
Posted on 7/12/22 at 1:24 pm to TigerintheNO
I still think Wilt would be an All-NBA level player even in today's game, but if he played against modern bigs he wouldn't be in the discussion for GOAT scorer
Posted on 7/12/22 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Actually I think the only guy who was ever shown to be "clutch" in those situations was
...
...
drumroll
Carmelo Anthony
Still hate him to this day due to his clutchness in the Sweet 16 of the 2003 NCAAT
Posted on 7/12/22 at 1:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
That's 10 who are clearly better
Only on message boards.
1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Kobe
I’ll listen to arguments for just outside of the top 5. But any list without Kobe in the Top 10 is just not even worth the debate to me. Typically that person is so unbelievably biased against Kobe that it’s almost personal. Muh stats!!!
On that note, let me guess… you are not a big Kobe fan are you?
Posted on 7/12/22 at 2:17 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:
1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Kobe
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quote:
you are not a big Kobe fan are you
I really don't have a personal opinion about him as a player outside of how he performed on the court compared to other players.
In terms of Kobe the person, I was very happy to see what he did after playing b/c I was worried he would allow his personal demons and OCD to overtake his brain.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 2:22 pm to Epic Cajun
If you needed someone to miss one shot, Kobe was your man.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 2:33 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Which one been playing harder defenses in the playoffs?
You are forgetting about all Of the easy competition Bron had in the early rounds of the east for a decade.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:40 pm to ReauxlTide222
In the east lebron was accustomed to getting to play a team with around 40 wins in the first round of the playoffs. I tell you what he has always made the move at the right time I give him credit for that. He was in the east when the east was much weaker than the west and now the east is the better conf and he happens to be in the west.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:04 pm to nosaj
He won 5 championships, and is the most versatile scorer ever, he had more “game” (scoring moves etc) than anyone ever.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:02 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:
It’s mostly stat nerds who have never played the game or won much of anything in their lives and are unable to quantify anything that doesn’t show up in a stat book.
Oof. Tell us about your storied athletic career.
Do we need to discuss why the "stat book" might be important in a conversation such as this?
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
quote:
1. MJ
2. Lebron
3. Kobe
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Hard to have a conversation with that as the premise.
Kobe isn't a consensus top three basketball player to wear a Laker uniform (behind LeBron, Kareem, Wilt, and Magic). That's not a slight when three of those names are in the conversation for GOAT.
West, Baylor, Kobe, and Shaq would all also be the best players to ever wear most other uniforms.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:28 pm to Champs
quote:
Jordan was the one you wanted the ball in his hands when you were playing basketball
Posted on 7/12/22 at 9:31 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:I keep trying to tell people Lebron > MJ at basketball IQ
I tell you what he has always made the move at the right time I give him credit for that. He was in the east when the east was much weaker than the west and now the east is the better conf and he happens to be in the west.
This just another thing that proves it
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:33 am to ReauxlTide222
Posted on 7/13/22 at 7:38 am to ReauxlTide222
People around the nba will tell you Bron is the smartest player in the league. that’s pretty much a consensus. doesn’t mean much when rating him as a scorer.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:28 am to Boomshockalocka
Boom, who do you have as a better scorer: Kobe or James?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
James is better. Kobe was just too Inefficient. RIP KOB
Better 3 pt shooter
Better 2 pt shooter
Better FT shooter
Better efg%
Better TS%
curious what is the argument for kob here
Better 3 pt shooter
Better 2 pt shooter
Better FT shooter
Better efg%
Better TS%
curious what is the argument for kob here
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 8:36 am
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:54 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
curious what is the argument for kob here
Longevity and shot creation. Although I agree that he doesn't belong near the top of this list. Far too inefficient.
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