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re: Balls and Strikes and the rectangular box on the TV screen
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:03 am to coondaddy21
Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:03 am to coondaddy21
I like the human aspect of baseball. Some umpires call tight, some high, some low. I think it adds to baseball seeing players adjust.
I have no problem with tight or high strike zones as long as they are consistent for both teams.
I have no problem with tight or high strike zones as long as they are consistent for both teams.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 4:55 am
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Posted on 10/15/18 at 2:41 am to Anonymous95
quote:Absolutely agree. get rid of all replay in baseball. I stop watching baseball if balls and strikes was done by a computer
I’m in the minority here and take shite for it all the time, but I like the human error part of baseball. I don’t like replay and I definitely don’t want a computer calling pitches. I like when a bad call brings the skipper onto the field to kick dirt. ETA: There was none better than Lou Pinella.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 4:15 am to Pelican fan99
quote:
. I stop watching baseball if balls and strikes was done by a computer
Which is nuts if you think about.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 5:00 am to coondaddy21
Wouldn't it be more of a block rather than a box? There is volume in the batter's strike zone.
Can the ball cross into the zone over the plate at any time, or at least at the first corners and inly then, or maintain to the second corners?
Can the ball cross into the zone over the plate at any time, or at least at the first corners and inly then, or maintain to the second corners?
Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:47 am to WestCoastAg
Do you understand how dumb computers can be because of our input?
I struck out because I bent my knees on that one pitch or slumped my shoulders.
Strike zone is a living breathing thing with variables called human beings.
Not just dimensions of a plate and height ratio.
I wouldn't trust we could ever design a program that accurately depicts real life but only a program like Cyclops that yes the ball crossed over the plate at a certain height regardless of all the variables of the player on that pitch.
I struck out because I bent my knees on that one pitch or slumped my shoulders.
Strike zone is a living breathing thing with variables called human beings.
Not just dimensions of a plate and height ratio.
I wouldn't trust we could ever design a program that accurately depicts real life but only a program like Cyclops that yes the ball crossed over the plate at a certain height regardless of all the variables of the player on that pitch.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 7:51 am
Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:54 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:Yeah what he said was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
Is this serious?
We want to see humans who can do things that most can't....play and try to win a game that we all care about.
An umpire screwing that up doesn't make the game charming or more entertaining.
Robot players?
Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:56 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Sarcasm aside. This isn't cyclops in tennis. Just because a pitch sneaks into a TV screen box doesn't mean it's automatically a strike...it's
do fricking tell.
How so?
Posted on 10/15/18 at 7:56 am to CelticDog
With two angles cameras can see entire plate in 3d.
No umps gets that much info.
The way the ump stands changes his very ability to even see certain pitch locations.
Once upon a time it was widely believed that American league umps called different pitches strikes than nationals.
No umps gets that much info.
The way the ump stands changes his very ability to even see certain pitch locations.
Once upon a time it was widely believed that American league umps called different pitches strikes than nationals.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 8:00 am
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:18 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Do you understand how dumb computers can be because of our input?
I struck out because I bent my knees on that one pitch or slumped my shoulders.
Strike zone is a living breathing thing with variables called human beings.
Not just dimensions of a plate and height ratio.
I wouldn't trust we could ever design a program that accurately depicts real life but only a program like Cyclops that yes the ball crossed over the plate at a certain height regardless of all the variables of the player on that pitch.
You don't think there is a computer system that can scan the player in real time and determine where the ball was in relation to the player's body at the time that the ball crosses the plate?
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:49 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
I wouldn't trust we could ever design a program that accurately depicts real life but only a program like Cyclops that yes the ball crossed over the plate at a certain height regardless of all the variables of the player on that pitch.
We can design programs that take equipment and people to exact points outer space, but this fricking guy doesn't think we can design a ball/strike program for baseball. Get real.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:51 am to TexasTiger08
quote:
Why don’t we just have robots play the game?
I mean, why is human error allowed with the players themselves, but not the umpires?
Well this is dumb.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:57 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Ok yes, do that because that computer will do it better than any umpire can.
According to rule 2.00 of the Major League Baseball rule book, a strike zone is defined as "that area over home plate the upper limit of which is a horizontal line at the midpoint between the top of the shoulders and the top of the uniform pants, and the lower level is a line at the hollow beneath the kneecap"
Okay, put that into a computer.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:12 am to Anonymous95
quote:
ETA: There was none better than Lou Pinella.
I told Billy Martin what you said about Lou being the best at umpire confrontations. Here's his response:
Those 1970's Yankees players turned coaches were a surly bunch
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:20 am to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:26 am to Epic Cajun
quote:he doesn't
You don't think there is a computer system that can scan the player in real time and determine where the ball was in relation to the player's body at the time that the ball crosses the plate?
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:27 am to WestCoastAg
quote:
he doesn't
Totally ignoring the aspect of whether or not we want to remove umpires from calling balls and strikes, I don't understand how it is hard for people to grasp how feasible it is to have a computer perform this task.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 9:28 am
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:59 am to coondaddy21
how about putting "strikes" on all of the umpires, 3 missed calls and you are out and replaced, umpire also loses pay for that game, don't like it umpire? then work harder and pay more attention to your craft, fricking umpires...
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:59 am to KosmoCramer
quote:
They need to have a buzzer for the ump, he can only call a strike if he gets buzzed or the batter offers.
I like it. He can still project an animated call, to add to the human element.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 10:02 am to hawgndodge
That’s a fantastic article. Thank you for sharing.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 10:09 am to TexasTiger08
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Why don’t we just have robots play the game? I mean, why is human error allowed with the players themselves, but not the umpires?
This is such a ridiculous comparison. Nothing wrong with an unbias, consistently accurate strike zone.
Human error is allowed from the players because that’s the whole point of competition. Umpires aren’t out there to compete.
Not sure why you wouldn’t want as consistent officiating as possible. It really works well for a strike zone. The game shouldn’t be about the umps. It’s about the error of the actual competing teams, no?
I’m not completely for or against the idea. I’m still open to both sides, but I find your statement here a bit much.
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