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re: ATL Thread | 2023 offseason hot takes + discussion

Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:46 pm to
We scored almost 1,000 runs. Bringing the offense back is essentially a no brainer. Kelenic is an interesting upside play to hit 7th/8th. Will be interesting to see who the RH OF option is.

The defense at SS is a small concern to me as well. The metrics for Arcia were ok but I would have him on a short leash. I think I would be willing to accept a downgrade offensively for a vacuum there.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:11 pm to
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we are 0-3 in Strider starts in these last 2 playoffs. No one in the world we are acquiring who is taking starts from him.



He hasn't pitched bad in some of those starts though. And you're right, no one is going to take starts from him and nor should they, and I say that as someone who is fairly critical of Strider and TBH probably wouldn't like him very much if he weren't a Brave.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8367 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:12 pm to
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He's playing left in Puerto Rico right now. Stop being dumb.


Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14183 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:46 pm to
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We lost because our so called star pitcher got a freaking blister for the only games that mattered. Soft as charmin. And his wing man Morton decided to bail the last month of the season as well. You can talk about the bats going cold but when the young stars see the veterans bail on the season they all laid down. We need guys who actually want to win ball games and not just go thru the motions for empty season stats - I’m looking at you Fried.


How did the blister cause us to lose the NLDS? We won that game.

2 of the 3 losses were games where we scored 0 and 1 run respectively. Philly only scored 3 runs in each of those games.

If you are going to bitch, at least use facts when bitching.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:02 pm to

Nice deflection.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:07 pm to
He thinks if he repeats a narrative often and loud enough, it'll eventually become true but we all know that's not how it works.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
907 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:41 pm to
Like the narrative that we are doomed because we won’t re-sign Fried who has given us ONE high level playoff run. You don’t pay a guy the largest contract in team history who disappears in October. He disappeared in 2022 and 2023. Let the Mets or Yankees sign him, I’ll take Strider and the guys on the farm all day over Fried. We may lose but we won’t lose because of a freaking blister.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:51 pm to
You're like the boy who cried wolf.

And did Fried frick your wife or something?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81316 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:56 pm to
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throw out more shite takes in this thread because I know I won’t ever throw out the shittiest.


The offseason threads always have some amazingly tone deaf takes, but VolSquatch and RunningJacket are putting together quite the pillow fight for top terrible take this offseason
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48418 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:57 pm to
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The #Braves today signed RHP Huascar Ynoa ($825,000) and INF Luis Guillorme ($1.1 million) to one-year contracts for the 2024 season.


I thought Ynoa was under contract already, but I like it.

Luis Guillorme bat catch

This is one of the most incredible things I've ever seen on a baseball field.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4384 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:16 pm to
Kelenic completely sucks and has never really shown anything in his albeit short career
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:26 pm to
Savant page is very promising outside of the swing and miss.

AA said internally they had a young Joc Pederson comp on him.

They invested about $25M in buying him from the Mariners.

He might suck but “he sucks and has never shown anything” is an interesting take considering he literally produced more WAR than Rosario last year and the Braves clearly believe there’s a lot more in there.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4384 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:43 pm to
WAR is not a real stat

And the Braves have been wrong on players before. So just bc they believe something is there, doesn’t real hold much weight
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81316 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:46 pm to
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has never really shown anything in his albeit short career


That’s just not true. He has a very live bat, his issue is strikeouts
Posted by JeromeBaker
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 8:08 pm to
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Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:09 pm to
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Kelenic completely sucks

Well then that settles it.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:10 pm to
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And the Braves have been wrong on players before. So just bc they believe something is there, doesn’t real hold much weight


While this is true, they don't miss often. Makes them the orginazation that they are.

quote:

WAR is not a real stat


I'm not the biggest SABR guy but you're just being ridiculous here.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 9:14 pm
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4384 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:50 pm to
What does WAR measure?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81316 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:53 pm to
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What does WAR measure?



His overall value compared to a borderline player.

You can argue the accuracy of its merits based on how the algorithm is set up, but to act like it's a number pulled out of thin air is pretty dumb.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4384 posts
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:50 pm to
But… it is a number pulled out of thin air

What does the numerical value measure?
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