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re: ATL Thread | 2023 offseason hot takes + discussion

Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:38 pm to
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it is a number pulled out of thin air


Then all numbers and math equations are pulled out of thin air.

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What does the numerical value measure?


Not sure how I could be any clearer when I answered this the first time.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 12:04 am
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 12:55 am to
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But… it is a number pulled out of thin air

What does the numerical value measure?



Holy crap, this is about as dumb as Frenchy's “If on-base percentage is so important, then why don’t they put it up on the scoreboard" comment back in the day.

WAR is a combination of offense(a players OPS/wOBA), base running, and defense. It's not "pulled out of thin air" because you don't understand the math.

You can complain about WAR not being completely accurate simply because defense is hard to quantify with 100% accuracy (and depending on which defensive stats are used the WAR can be a bit different), but offensive stats and running stats are pretty easy to compare. Acting like WAR doesn't exist is just being dumb.
This post was edited on 1/6/24 at 12:57 am
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:45 am to
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What does the numerical value measure?


how WAR is calculated even the sub components
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:07 am to
But what is it good for?
Posted by 21zereaux
Member since Aug 2017
1535 posts
Posted on 1/6/24 at 9:14 am to
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But what is it good for?


Absolutely nothing, say it again!
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8367 posts
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:32 am to
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The offseason threads always have some amazingly tone deaf takes, but VolSquatch and RunningJacket are putting together quite the pillow fight for top terrible take this offseason



You're going to win the offseason "biggest bitch" award running away
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:46 am to
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It's not "pulled out of thin air" because you don't understand the math.



I think there is a mathematical argument to saying it is "pulled out of thin air" because its a formula that is in theory supposed to reference itself when defining a "replacement player", but I don't necessarily agree with that argument
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81318 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:23 pm to
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You're going to win the offseason "biggest bitch" award running away



Great comeback big dawg!


Anyway, Mississippi Braves are leaving Pearl after this season and heading to Columbus, GA. Not counting the FCL short-season site, all of our minor league affiliates will now be in Georgia.

Feel bad for the Jackson locals that worked for the club. A lot of good folks over there, but fan support for that team was trash, even by MiLB standards. Good for the club to get out of that cesspool of an area.

Jackson has lost the M-Braves, Deion Sanders and drinkable water in the last two years.


This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9380 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:33 pm to
Yeah attendance was terrible in Pearl. And a nice stadium too, good place to catch a game. Wonder what they will do with it
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81318 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:35 pm to
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Yeah attendance was terrible in Pearl. And a nice stadium too, good place to catch a game. Wonder what they will do with it



I'm sure they'll try to attract another team, but I can't imagine many organizations will be beating down the doors to come there.

For the time being, I assume it will only be used for the MSU/Ole Miss/USM baseball series and the high school state championships.

Nice intimate park.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54447 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:01 pm to
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Nice intimate park.

It really is.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81318 posts
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
7312 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:16 am to
Man I'm going to be really bummed out after they let Max walk.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54447 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:40 am to
Might as well get it out of your system now and enjoy his last year with us.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8367 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:30 am to
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Man I'm going to be really bummed out after they let Max walk.


Sucks that its a foregone conclusion already
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 7:53 am to
It'll be nice to have the AA in Columbus, just a smidge over an hour from my house. May have to check into going to some games.

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Broski

You live in the Jackson area IIRC?

Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9980 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:28 am to
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Man I'm going to be really bummed out after they let Max walk.



Hopefully AA signs Wheeler this next off-season to make up for Fried walking.
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
108128 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 8:40 am to
You're bummed when you wake up every morning tbf
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
54447 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:09 am to
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Hopefully AA signs Wheeler this next off-season to make up for Fried walking.

Only if Wheeler falls off and commands no more than $20MM AAV for 2 or 3 years. But sure, hopefully.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8367 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:26 am to
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Only if Wheeler falls off and commands no more than $20MM AAV for 2 or 3 years. But sure, hopefully.



What will Wheeler actually go for compared to Max?

Wheeler is several years older, so if we won't pay Max I'm not sure we pay Wheeler either lol
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