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re: Are the inmates running the asylum?

Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7635 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:29 pm to
Try to post less of your theories
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7635 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:34 pm to
Some of these so-called fans need to get a fricking life.
Since before WWII, players have been wanting to get paid, now they are getting paid.
If you don't like it, don't watch it, watch Tractor Pull, or Tobacco Spitting or Cornholing.

So a free education isn’t worth anything to so called athletes. Must be why so many are broke bums after Playing days are over
Posted by StadiumDormRat'72
BR,LA
Member since Sep 2012
2942 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:50 pm to
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College football about to start sucking except for the service academies


Other than the obligatory "Support Our Troops" idolatry, is there some other reason you say this?
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28843 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:57 pm to
We are watching the not so slow death of college football, like it or not.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:58 pm to
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The power has shifted to players, for sure.


Meanwhile we now have a couple of $10M/year head coaches, so the power hasn't shifted too much...
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9048 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Or, perhaps we’re literally living in the ncaa twilight zone, when:

1. Players can literally transfer to any school, including schools within their own conference, with 0 penalty and immediate eligibility
2. Teams can easily, and out in the open pay recruits (via this bogus unregulated UIL deal)
2A.You have Ta&m already signing 15 of the top 100 players (and they’re not done yet!), to go play for Jimbo?!
3. You have teams like Indiana and Missouri out recruiting LSU?!

How long can this current state of affairs last before the former great sport of college football implodes? Do the current ncaa powers to be actually think this is sustainable?



I'll answer each bullet point:

1) They can only freely transfer once. This is year 1 so you are seeing more than we will probably see in a typical year. I feel like once it settles down the transfers will mostly be kids that signed with schools for NIL money and arent playing as 2nd or 3rd year players and G5 guys like Miles Frazier that had great years and want to boost their stock by moving up in competition.

2) Every team is allowed to use NIL deals so I don't see how this is that much of an issue. Also the NCAA will start to put rules in place as issues become clear in the next few years.

2A) Oil money goes a long way. Like I said in part 1, a ot of these kids will transfer out once they fail to secure PT.

3) LSU is in the middle of a complete coaching overhaul and did not have their ducks in a row with the NIL stuff. LSU will be back in the mix starting next year.

The sport will not implode, the transfer portal is the great equalizer. half the kids that sign with the NIL super schools will transfer when they don't get PT. The NCAA will obviously put some rules in place eventually once they see how the dust settles.
Posted by jrctiger84
New orleans
Member since Aug 2013
618 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 3:06 pm to
No, the inmates just asked for better treatment and the asylum overreacted to the 10th degree!!!!!
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25855 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:31 pm to
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Perhaps the players are just getting a piece of the multi-billion dollar industry.


The interesting thing is the players aren't getting a piece of the multi-million dollar college football industry they are getting part of a whole new (at least new on the legal side) industry. The NCAA figured out a way for the players to get paid without giving up any of their money or the college's money. The colleges, however, may certainly see a reduction in booster payments that are now going to the players through a different version of bagmen.
Posted by Fightin Okra
Member since Nov 2016
5668 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:55 pm to
Nope. They were playing because they liked the game and for the university. They get plenty of money by way of scholarships, housing, food, health care, etc. Plus, they have doors open for them just because they played a sport in college. A lot of these guys may not even be going to college if not for the university giving them the opportunity to play a sport
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48330 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:55 pm to
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Yes, because, overall they're stupid and remain that way until they are about 26


To be fair, the vast majority of people over 26 are horribly dumb as well.

I get all the arguments against the new system but, at the end of the day, there was something fundamentally unjust about people making billions off the talents of 18-21 year olds while also actively suppressing their ability to make money off that talent.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145254 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74290 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:18 pm to
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2A.You have Ta&m already signing 15 of the top 100 players (and they’re not done yet!), to go play for Jimbo?!


Imagine signing with a coach who is not only a loser but a quitter
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21217 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:15 pm to
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but the "inmates" didn't unleash this




I'm trying to figure out who the "inmates" are supposed to be.

Crazy rich boosters?
ESPN executives and Mouse shareholders?
Jimmy Sexton and the 2 or 3 other agents who con university presidents and boardmembers into paying mediocre football coaches whatever the frick they demand?

Players didn't create this storm.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:07 pm to
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Inmates? Asylum?


No longer slaves, like NFL players.
Posted by OU812
Greensboro, NC
Member since Apr 2004
12579 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:37 pm to
18-22 year olds should not be in charge of anything.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59085 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:33 am to
quote:

18-22 year olds should not be in charge of anything.



Why not? And what do you think they're in charge of?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14355 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 6:26 am to
quote:

Or, perhaps we’re literally living in the ncaa twilight zone, when:

1. Players can literally transfer to any school, including schools within their own conference, with 0 penalty and immediate eligibility
2. Teams can easily, and out in the open pay recruits (via this bogus unregulated UIL deal)
2A.You have Ta&m already signing 15 of the top 100 players (and they’re not done yet!), to go play for Jimbo?!
3. You have teams like Indiana and Missouri out recruiting LSU?!

How long can this current state of affairs last before the former great sport of college football implodes? Do the current ncaa powers to be actually think this is sustainable?



Perhaps if LSU would stop sabotaging their own football program from within morale might pick up just a tiny bit.
Posted by nerdmachine
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2019
266 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:34 am to
This is actually great for college football. More parity, maybe bad for LSU or other blue bloods but no fans of schools like Mizzou or Indiana are crying for y’all.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 7:36 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37583 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:53 am to
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Do you call your kids inmates?


Yes but that’s beside the point
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37583 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 7:58 am to
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This NIL should have been thought out more on how to implement it. It's the Wild West right now.


Blame the NCAA for sitting in their hands for so damn long.

They claim that the young men and women are student athletes first and I know they have the numbers to back up that 95+% go pro in something other than sports, but do you know what the average student can get? Sponsorships, scholarships from local business, and payments from anyone they want.

It’s just that Bryce young is much more marketable in Tuscaloosa than Vladimir Ibrahimovic, the stud chemistry student that is making new molecules.
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