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Are modern CFB offenses getting better or are the defenses worse?
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:19 pm
15 years ago if you scored 30 points that was considered a great offensive performance...
Nowadays if you don’t score 30 you’re most likely going to lose.
The spread offense has been around for a long time and still few teams have an answer for it. Are the offenses that far ahead of the curve or are modern defenses just soft?
Nowadays if you don’t score 30 you’re most likely going to lose.
The spread offense has been around for a long time and still few teams have an answer for it. Are the offenses that far ahead of the curve or are modern defenses just soft?
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:22 pm to Tigers1984
Offensive strategies have been getting better, and rule changes have hurt defenses by limiting head hunting and creating ticky-tack PIs.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:24 pm to Tigers1984
every new rule favors offense
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:29 pm to Tigers1984
1. Offenses are significantly more advanced and analytics has pushed offenses to be more aggressive.
2. Rule changes significantly favor offense
2. Rule changes significantly favor offense
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:32 pm to Tigers1984
quote:I would say the offensive execution is better. When the spread came, HS QBs and WRs threw on a LOT of practice reps and downs in the game that they would have ran the ball on before, reps that would have been wasted in terms of QB development. A team wins or outperforms their talent level, so other teams start running spread and air raid.
The spread offense has been around for a long time and still few teams have an answer for it. Are the offenses that far ahead of the curve or are modern defenses just soft?
Then when enough teams run spread, they figure out that the best QBs are dual threat, and now the old fashioned pocket passer is a dinosaur. It’s like the difference between a king and a queen in chess.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:38 pm to Tigers1984
Combination of offensive innovation (especially the RPO) and that modern defenses are more focused on disruptive plays and takeaways than yards allowed.
A modern defense is happy to give up 500 yards if they get three TO's.
A modern defense is happy to give up 500 yards if they get three TO's.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:39 pm to Tigers1984
Offensive schemes are light years ahead of where they were 20 years ago. Virginia Tech and the Falcons were running I formation stuff with Michael Vick, for example. He should have been taking 90% of his snaps from the shotgun.
The other thing I've noticed is modern quarterbacks are incredibly accurate throwing downfield in comparison to their predecessors.
The other thing I've noticed is modern quarterbacks are incredibly accurate throwing downfield in comparison to their predecessors.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:47 pm to Tigers1984
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:48 pm to chalmetteowl
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I would say the offensive execution is better. When the spread came, HS QBs and WRs threw on a LOT of practice reps and downs in the game that they would have ran the ball on before, reps that would have been wasted in terms of QB development. A team wins or outperforms their talent level, so other teams start running spread and air raid.
Then when enough teams run spread, they figure out that the best QBs are dual threat, and now the old fashioned pocket passer is a dinosaur. It’s like the difference between a king and a queen in chess.
Being a DT QB and running the spread literally having nothing to do with each other. You could have the slowest QB, but if he knows where to go with the ball he is going to be successful in the spread. Old school brees for one.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 3:52 pm to TheAstroTiger
College seems to be mirroring NFL
You used to be able to mug WR's at college level and in the pros
Bama got away with it and LSU did as well back in the day and a lot of teams did
You used to be able to mug WR's at college level and in the pros
Bama got away with it and LSU did as well back in the day and a lot of teams did
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:36 pm to TheAstroTiger
quote:i'd rather have a guy who's more mobile now though
but if he knows where to go with the ball he is going to be successful in the spread. Old school brees for one.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:41 pm to Tigers1984
I think kids are able to practice the craft of being a receiver and qb way earlier than before
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:49 pm to Tigers1984
I remember when Saban and Kirby and the signal calling defensive player for Alabama would dissect the offense before each play and frantically switch their own play to defend what they saw.
It was like chess. Easily the most entertaining football for me in my lifetime.
Now it’s basketball on grass. I can’t tell you the last time I looked at the schedule or an upcoming game and gave half a second of thought to what opposing defenses were bringing to the contest. It simply doesn’t matter anymore.
It was like chess. Easily the most entertaining football for me in my lifetime.
Now it’s basketball on grass. I can’t tell you the last time I looked at the schedule or an upcoming game and gave half a second of thought to what opposing defenses were bringing to the contest. It simply doesn’t matter anymore.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:49 pm to nicholastiger
quote:It’s the other way around
College seems to be mirroring NFL
Posted on 2/5/21 at 4:54 pm to ReauxlTide222
Seems like all the super athletic players are playing offense now too.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:01 pm to PeteRose
quote:When I played in the 80s I was terrified to run slants. Also, I've seen much worse than in that video.
Imagine being able to protect the middle like this now.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:34 pm to Tigers1984
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15 years ago if you scored 30 points that was considered a great offensive performance...
I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, nearly 40 teams averaged 30ppg or more in 2005.
But offenses have gotten smarter, and the rules favor the offense more and more. I don't think defenses are necessarily worse.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:50 pm to RoscoeHarper
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But offenses have gotten smarter, and the rules favor the offense more and more. I don't think defenses are necessarily worse.
Offenses have realized that unstacking the box by replacing the fullback with another receiver makes the matchups much tougher for the defense. Defenses don't have enough quality cornerbacks to matchup with the depth offenses have at WR.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 6:52 pm to Tigers1984
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This post was edited on 11/3/23 at 4:49 pm
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