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Anyone following the chess drama?

Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Civildawg
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:59 pm
Magnus withdrew from a tournament for the first time ever. Rumor is he caught one of the opponents cheating. The cheating is supposedly a leak from Magnus’ inner circle on his preparation.
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:13 pm to
How does one cheat in chess, read your opponent’s mind?
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:14 pm to
Magnus is the GOAT anyway
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:16 pm to
Sounds like he is scared
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:30 pm to
Hans had some great points about this in today's post match interview. Go watch it on YT. Makes magnus look terrible. You can't just insuate someone is cheating without some sort of proof/evidence
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2293 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:48 pm to
Hans has been caught cheating multiple times in the past

He gave inconsistent and erroneous answers in his post game analysis yesterday and even blundered a full piece when the analysis engine was turned off

Magnus has never accused anyone of cheating before

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I’m gonna call it a duck. Hans cheated, likely by subterfuge and studying magus’ leaked prep.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:54 pm to
Watch his interview from today. He explains getting caught cheating and apologizes for it.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10196 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:54 pm to
How do you cheat in chess?
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:09 pm to
Watch those guys that play chess at the park in NYC
Posted by Poichess
Member since Jun 2019
791 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:12 pm to
Have computer aid
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76516 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:15 pm to
Magnus and Hikaru are the two biggest online presences. The mob has been assembled.

They better be right. If not, this is a travesty.
Posted by HabaneroBuck
Up a ways.
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:27 pm to
It's an interesting case, because Hans' analysis, as you stated, simply did not pass muster. Especially the next day when he apparently didn't understand his game with Firouzja.

Don't forget, he said he had looked at this line twenty moves deep before the game...even though Magnus played a novelty on move 4, one which he had never personally played in his registered chess history.

Stockfish analysis shows that Magnus made 4 inaccuracies and 3 mistakes. That is why it's such an interesting predicament. Magnus did himself no favors in that game, and there is nothing inherent to suggest computer aid was used in any way.

I'm just going to eat the popcorn and see how it plays out.
This post was edited on 9/6/22 at 9:29 pm
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:32 pm to
Magnus Ver Magnusson?

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145132 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:34 pm to
This Hans character sounds like someone the Astros will be hiring any minute now
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16625 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

How does one cheat in chess, read your opponent’s mind?


Judging by the measures put in place afterwards, I believe the thought was he had some type of device that was allowing someone else to relay the computers best move back to him. I know he has been in trouble in the past with cheating but that was during online games where it would be exponentially easier to cheat.

Personally, I think it’s a bit shitty to makes this claim without any type of proof. Had Magnus said he heard something fishy like buzzing or a radio transmission then I would be inclined to believe him. The reality is Magnus played a shitty opening and got a bad position and couldn’t dig his way out of it. I didn’t see any moves Hans made that made me think he had assistance. Now I’m a nobody, and arguing with Magnus about the game of chess is absurd, but I think this is more sour grapes than anything.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16625 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:40 pm to
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Stockfish analysis shows that Magnus made 4 inaccuracies and 3 mistakes.


Sounds like what the computer tells me on my 1st 15 moves
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11701 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:32 pm to
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Especially the next day when he apparently didn't understand his game with Firouzja.


That’s the biggest give away. He beat Magnus with black, then looked terrible the next day.
Posted by paladine36
Member since Feb 2013
1478 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:52 am to
vibrating anal beads

but for real just Hikaru and Magnus being little bitches like normal
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21318 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 2:06 am to
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Watch those guys that play chess at the park in NYC



You've likely seen this video with Grandmaster Maurice Ashley. Watch the move that NYC hustler guy tries at 2:21. LINK
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42465 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 6:09 am to
Magnus also had chess.com perma ban Hans. Hans was invited to play in the chess.com upcoming tournament and now has been perma banned and uninvited from the tournament.

LINK

Fun part of the interview starts at 8:00. He makes a lot of great points and seems very heartfelt
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