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re: Am I the only one who fricking hated the fall downs at the end of the game?

Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:10 am to
If they don’t do that, and lose the game, you’d probably be the one to come here and start a thread ‘man…. the chiefs should have fell down to kill more clock before scoring’



If not you, then some other tard would have
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:10 am to
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you need to operate under the assumption that most offenses can get downfield in a two minute drill because they can.


For a field goal yeah. For a touchdown I still like my chances.

Plus if all you watch is the Saints, it may be a shock to see actual good defense in a Super Bowl
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34766 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:10 am to
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Plus if all you watch is the Saints, it may be a shock to see actual good defense in a Super Bowl


The saints defense has been legit over the past 5 or so years… not sure what you’re talking about big dawg
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
5654 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:12 am to
The odds of an NFL kicker missing a 20 yard field goal are .0000001%
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32955 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:13 am to
Yeah looks like people were forgetting that. So the Chiefs played some chess at the end of the game. It was the smart move.
Posted by philly444
stuck in contraflow
Member since Nov 2008
11857 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:16 am to
I personally hated it bc I had money on McKinnon to score a TD
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28773 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 9:18 am to
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I hate the strategy to begin with—if you’re winning by 1 or especially 2 or more, the things that would have to go wrong for you to lose at that point if you go ahead and score and add 7 points to your lead seem way less likely than a fumbled snap and turnover. But whatever.

However, in last night’s situation, the game was fricking tied with under 2 minutes to go and Philly having no timeouts and a QB without the huge arm to lead a typical, end-of-game, 75-yard TD unless your DBs slipped and let somebody get loose. Which was possible, I guess, on that field. But was also why I thought it was a terrible decision to play for the FG (even though it wound up working out). KC’s kicker had slipped at least twice already—once on the missed FG and another on the kickoff—and they were putting him on the slickest part of the field, right in the paint.

Again, it worked out, but at the time, in a tie game, I thought it was a bad decision. Unless they were scared Philly would go for 2 and the win if they miraculously went down the field and scored, but I doubt that was in Reid’s thought process since that’s more of a college move than an NFL one. Especially in the Super Bowl.


You don't know more about football than Andy Reid but nice try.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
6229 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:02 am to
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My main point is that this was not a given on that field last night.

It was not, but it also was even less of a given that the defense gets a stop. It’s all about the percentages so was still a good call.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
19670 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:29 am to
Lets say he scores and they hit EP to go up 7. Then Philly scores but with Hurts he is almost unstoppable in short yardage plays and they go for 2 and get it and win. Thats what KC had to think. With the play called against Philly DB the odds are high KC gets called too, in a 2 minute drill.

It was a good strategy and it worked. At worst they miss and go to OT but they prevent Hurts (and refs) from deciding the game.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19107 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 11:39 am to
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and they were putting him on the slickest part of the field, right in the paint.

This was the only thing wrong about what they did at the end. In hindsight, they should have had Mahomes run up for another 1-2 yards or drift to the left on the last knee to take that out of the equation. But, other than that, it was the right strategy.

Hell, as much as teams are known to overthink; they probably changed out his spikes for longer spikes in his plant shoe as soon as they knew they were going to start running the clock out.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Am I the only one who fricking hated the fall downs at the end of the game?

Dumbest take in a night of historically bad takes. Congratulations, retard.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21831 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:51 pm to
I hate that it was how the game was decided, but it was ABSOLUTELY the correct move on the Chiefs' part. That's why everyone was so disgusted with the penalty being called.

The Eagles didn't tackle... hell, they should have grabbed the RB and pulled him into the endzone for a TD on the first play (question: would that be a penalty? Honestly, I don't THINK so).

KC would have gone up a TD with just under 2 minutes to go, certainly kick the XP to make it a 7 pt margain. Philly has a little time for a last drive, for OT or go for 2 to win.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20026 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:54 pm to
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It wound up working, so I doubt I’ll have many supporters with benefit of hindsight,


No. You don’t have any supporters because your take is just wrong.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
19670 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 12:58 pm to
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The Eagles didn't tackle... hell, they should have grabbed the RB and pulled him into the endzone for a TD on the first play (question: would that be a penalty? Honestly, I don't THINK so).


Omce they touch him he is down (player would have made sure to go down). The KC RB who went down did a qb slide which is auto down. Philly had no chance to get him in EZ.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
26359 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:00 pm to
You know who else was mad they didn’t score the TD and played for the FG instead?

The Philadelphia Eagles coaches, players staff and fans.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451250 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:02 pm to
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Who the hell dreams of NOT scoring the winning touchdown in the Super Bowl?!

That play should become a legend bigger than all but a handful of TDs
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148081 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:04 pm to
Id walk away from this take
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79166 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:09 pm to
The way you have to weigh it:

What is more likely to happen?

- Butker misses a 20 yard FG

- The Eagles drive down the field for a game tying FG with 2 minutes left.



Even if they do miss the FG, it goes to overtime.

It is a no-brainer decision to not score a TD there.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21831 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:09 pm to
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Omce they touch him he is down (player would have made sure to go down). The KC RB who went down did a qb slide which is auto down. Philly had no chance to get him in EZ.


Watching the play, Eagles #24 in the area, jogs and makes zero effort to tackle. The KC back runs past him...
but 24 is right there. IF he then grabbed him prior to the slide- could he grab him and dive/carry him forward?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79166 posts
Posted on 2/13/23 at 1:12 pm to
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IF he then grabbed him prior to the slide- could he grab him and dive/carry him forward?


I think so. Pretty sure I've seen that before.
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